[3.10] Akumas Sunder - THE League Starter Budget - Can do all content.

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Phenolia wrote:
If I HAPPEN to achieve Lv. 94, would it make sense to go for Iron Reflexes, since I cant evade attacks according to Unwavering Stance (from Kaom's)?


Depends on your gear.
Check on Path of Building if the point gives you enough to make it worthwhile.
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Deaths Oath without support gems won't do anything helpful and even if you'd give it support gems and put sunder in a 30ex shaper/elder linked item it would still suck as we don't scale anything of it.


sry, what do u mean that without support gems it wont help? it gives a lot of stats and attack speed and we can place the sunder on it if it's 6L... death oath i mean the body armour... perharps u are confunding it with something else? +50 all attributes, 1% L Leech and 16% ASPD would help
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raulrex1994 wrote:
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Deaths Oath without support gems won't do anything helpful and even if you'd give it support gems and put sunder in a 30ex shaper/elder linked item it would still suck as we don't scale anything of it.


sry, what do u mean that without support gems it wont help? it gives a lot of stats and attack speed and we can place the sunder on it if it's 6L... death oath i mean the body armour... perharps u are confunding it with something else? +50 all attributes, 1% L Leech and 16% ASPD would help


I very know what Death's Oath is.
But while Atziri's Promise is not active we would have 720 degen 562.5 with the flask.
We have a net regen of 81.3. So we would have, while Killing a permanently degen of 638,7 or 481,2
This is constantly. Sure, we do life leech enough to counter this. But the little damage boost we get is not really worth it, at least for me or that I would mention it in a guide. And not to mention extra stuff like dots and other stuffs that can happen in maps and mapmods.

(All numbers based on my budget items from the guide)

But if you do like it so much, you are very free to use it.
It is your character at all.
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Hi again AkumaNoTsubasa,

New question! :3

So I recently noticed the following:

Sunder
-------------------------gemA----gemB-------
Level--------------------- 20 ---- 21 -------
DamageEffectiveness- 182% --- 184%-----
DamageMultiplier----- 181.8% - 184%-------
Radius-------------------- 6 ----- 7 -------

(NOTE: Quality for Sunder --> 0.5% Area of Effect per 1% Quality)
gemA: A level 20, 20% quality sunder has a radius of 6 and +10% area of effect
gemB: A level 21, 0% quality sunder has a radius of 7.


So my question is..
Is a gemB LARGER than gemA? I know gemB increases my PoB dps by about 8k but I don't want to make that upgrade if I am going to be losing a lot of width to my attacks.

Help! xD
Last edited by Leiwolong1515 on Apr 16, 2018, 1:20:40 PM
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Leiwolong1515 wrote:
Hi again AkumaNoTsubasa,

New question! :3

So I recently noticed the following:

Sunder
-------------------------gemA----gemB-------
Level--------------------- 20 ---- 21 -------
DamageEffectiveness- 182% --- 184%-----
DamageMultiplier----- 181.8% - 184%-------
Radius-------------------- 6 ----- 7 -------

(NOTE: Quality for Sunder --> 0.5% Area of Effect per 1% Quality)
gemA: A level 20, 20% quality sunder has a radius of 6 and +10% area of effect
gemB: A level 21, 0% quality sunder has a radius of 7.


So my question is..
Is a gemB LARGER than gemA? I know gemB increases my PoB dps by about 8k but I don't want to make that upgrade if I am going to be losing a lot of width to my attacks.

Help! xD


Don't "upgrade" from 20% quality to 0.
Either save up to get a 21/20 or if you actively farm t13+ just level some gems in your secondary weapon setup.
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Don't "upgrade" from 20% quality to 0.
Either save up to get a 21/20 or if you actively farm t13+ just level some gems in your secondary weapon setup.

Well to be clear, the reason I am asking is because lvl21 Sunders are on poe.trade for 2c each.

so it's quite cheap for a 0 quality. And it ups my damage on PoB by 8k but I don't want to get that insignificant of an upgrade in dps if it reduces the width of my sunder.

So I wanna know if that is what is meant by "Radius"
because I think a radius of (7) is better than a radius of (6 + 10% area of efect)... but I want to be sure.
Last edited by Leiwolong1515 on Apr 16, 2018, 4:35:30 PM
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Leiwolong1515 wrote:
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Don't "upgrade" from 20% quality to 0.
Either save up to get a 21/20 or if you actively farm t13+ just level some gems in your secondary weapon setup.

Well to be clear, the reason I am asking is because lvl21 Sunders are on poe.trade for 2c each.

so it's quite cheap for a 0 quality. And it ups my damage on PoB by 8k but I don't want to get that insignificant of an upgrade in dps if it reduces the width of my sunder.

So I wanna know if that is what is meant by "Radius"
because I think a radius of (7) is better than a radius of (6 + 10% area of efect)... but I want to be sure.


Sunder has two phases.

Phase 1: No AoE - Plain row hitting all enemies until impact
Phase 2: AoE Impact hits with a shockwave dealing AoE damage but not the enemy it got triggered by (like bosses)

More AoE = more mobs hit by phase 2 and 8k dps are nothing when we deal 770k with medium good gear.
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Sunder has two phases.

Phase 1: No AoE - Plain row hitting all enemies until impact
Phase 2: AoE Impact hits with a shockwave dealing AoE damage but not the enemy it got triggered by (like bosses)

More AoE = more mobs hit by phase 2 and 8k dps are nothing when we deal 770k with medium good gear.

Yeah I agree with that last sentence 100%

But what I'm saying is... if I am reading this correctly... the level 21 gem has a radius of 7 units and the level 20 gem has a radius of 6 units.

6 + 10% Area of Effect = 6.6 units (????)
7 + 0% Area of Effect = 7 units

So the level 21 gem would be 8k dps AND it would have greater aoe?

Am I misunderstanding anything in this?
2. Single Target Bosses like Atziri (DPS includes their resistances so the numbers are lower)
557.764,3

is this dps achievable only in the first wave? with or without ancestral warchief out?
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raulrex1994 wrote:
2. Single Target Bosses like Atziri (DPS includes their resistances so the numbers are lower)
557.764,3

is this dps achievable only in the first wave? with or without ancestral warchief out?


Yes only the primary wave + Warchief

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Yes
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