[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

so, i have 1 spectre from the skill itself, 1 from vis mortis, 1 from the bones of ullr and 1 from de skill tree. How do i get the 5th spectre?
Sorry for the newbie question, i'm pretty new to this game.
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redslugah wrote:
so, i have 1 spectre from the skill itself, 1 from vis mortis, 1 from the bones of ullr and 1 from de skill tree. How do i get the 5th spectre?
Sorry for the newbie question, i'm pretty new to this game.


getting the 5th might not be worthy, you would say goodbye to a lot of defences.
To get a 5th spectre (which isn't in this build) requires Queen's Decree 2handed sword.
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sirianstar wrote:
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redslugah wrote:
so, i have 1 spectre from the skill itself, 1 from vis mortis, 1 from the bones of ullr and 1 from de skill tree. How do i get the 5th spectre?
Sorry for the newbie question, i'm pretty new to this game.


getting the 5th might not be worthy, you would say goodbye to a lot of defences.
To get a 5th spectre (which isn't in this build) requires Queen's Decree 2handed sword.


ohh, gotcha.
thank you!

edit: but how people do the 5 TV spectres 10 totems if it needs the 2handed sword and the shield?
Last edited by redslugah#2224 on Jun 29, 2018, 2:54:13 PM
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redslugah wrote:
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sirianstar wrote:
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redslugah wrote:
so, i have 1 spectre from the skill itself, 1 from vis mortis, 1 from the bones of ullr and 1 from de skill tree. How do i get the 5th spectre?
Sorry for the newbie question, i'm pretty new to this game.


getting the 5th might not be worthy, you would say goodbye to a lot of defences.
To get a 5th spectre (which isn't in this build) requires Queen's Decree 2handed sword.


ohh, gotcha.
thank you!

edit: but how people do the 5 TV spectres 10 totems if it needs the 2handed sword and the shield?


There's also this item: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Midnight_Bargain

It's a 1-handed item (wand) that gives +1 spectre but reserves a lot of your life in return. This item is only really viable with Low-life builds, so they are usually meant to replace Vis Mortis, not complement it.

What you're talking about is probably exactly this - Necromantic Aegis keystone + Midnight Bargain + Tukohama's Fortress. This way you'll have 5 TVs who will be able to place 10 totems.

But the punchline here is that this build is a complete meme-tier build. It can't even be called 'glass cannon' - by going this route (losing shield and a lot of life too) you do become 'glass', but that extra spectre and the double totem interaction do not make this build 'cannon' at all. The increase in damage is negligible due to changes in how the totems are placed by those spectres, and even in better times it was complete overkill that would've not been really important. Someone who doesn't really play that build might see a video with 10 totems shredding Shaper's phases and go 'woah', but the thing is, if the same character were to remove that 5th spectre and the TF shield, and show the kill again, the difference in the speed of the kill would've not been very noticeable, however the difference in survivability would've dropped to levels where you'd be getting one-shot by something like goats jumps on Chimera fight with just 1 map damage mod.

So bottom line, this variation of the build is a curious little meme experiment, nothing more. It's not a viable spectre build at all.
Last edited by LaplaceNoMa#3989 on Jun 30, 2018, 4:55:23 AM
Hi,

PoE noob here. So I'm on my way to getting all the gear I need for this build. Currently using Solar Guards. I have the Skullhead(4LRRGG), Lioneye's Remorse(2LRB/G), & the Advancing Fortress(3LGGR).

In your Op, Slotted in the advancing fortress you have whirling blades, but it's also slotted in the helmet. Same with Bone Offering, it's slotted in the gloves & first shield. Is this wrong or Im I just confused. Also, what's a good pair of cheap unique gloves that works well with this build. Currently using Hrimsorrow.

I have the Vis Mortis, Bones of Ullr & Belt of the Deciever all taken care of. Just not too sure on the shield, helmet & claw.

If anyone would help a nood out, that'd be great. Thanks in advance.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/boxanata/characters
Last edited by boxanata#2179 on Jul 3, 2018, 4:08:55 PM
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boxanata wrote:
Hi,

PoE noob here. So I'm on my way to getting all the gear I need for this build. Currently using Solar Guards. I have the Skullhead(4LRRGG), Lioneye's Remorse(2LRB/G), & the Advancing Fortress(3LGGR).

In your Op, Slotted in the advancing fortress you have whirling blades, but it's also slotted in the helmet. Same with Bone Offering, it's slotted in the gloves & first shield. Is this wrong or Im I just confused. Also, what's a good pair of cheap unique gloves that works well with this build. Currently using Hrimsorrow.

I have the Vis Mortis, Bones of Ullr & Belt of the Deciever all taken care of. Just not too sure on the shield, helmet & claw.

If anyone would help a nood out, that'd be great. Thanks in advance.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/boxanata/characters
If you are using Advancing Fortress, put whirling blades, faster attacks, and your stone golem in there. If you're using a scourge claw for the extra DPS, you probably will want to move that combo to a 4 link and add fortify.

For gloves, you should stick with a set of rares. My personal favorite is a set of armour / es base, with life and or mana, lots of resists, and room for Catarina's mastercraft mod for increased minion damage.

This league - since the Offering nerf to necro, I've stuck with Advancing Fortress for the added block.

Skullhead is a great leveling helm. So is Wraithlord. End game you're likely going to want a rare bone helm with the usual combination of life, mana, and resists, unless you go for an Elder helm for a pseudo 6 link.

Shield - it's really tough to top one of these:


The key affixes here are the % of block applied to spells and the recover % of life every time you block. The first one, combined with an amulet with the same affix, will max your spell block, and the second one means small hits just fill your life bar.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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LaplaceNoMa wrote:
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kayella wrote:
It's almost an impossible challenge you've set yourself. Will be very impressive if you manage to knock it out deathless.


A very lucky slam block and generally pretty sloppy play even compared to my previous kills, but... a deathless is a deathless!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WdnTt79rTU

(Battle starts at ~02:10)


I want to say thank you for posting this incredibly impressive video and thank you for making your characters public. I've "mained" a summoner build of one type or another since Breach but recently became disenchanted with them this league. I've since felt a bit unmoored and have spent the last few weeks playing around with the various meme builds (Blade Vortex Elementalist, Elemental Hit Deadeye, Arc Trap Saboteur) but not of them has really felt like home. Seeing your video and your setup has inspired me to dust off my Incursion Necro, respec and regear a bit and give it another go.

Thanks again. :)
Do you happen to have a tree that doesn't use Reckless Defence. I also us Solar Guards
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Zargnar wrote:
Do you happen to have a tree that doesn't use Reckless Defence. I also us Solar Guards
You're welcome to look at mine, I don't use RD, currently running SGs as well. My chars are open.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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grimjack68 wrote:
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Zargnar wrote:
Do you happen to have a tree that doesn't use Reckless Defence. I also us Solar Guards
You're welcome to look at mine, I don't use RD, currently running SGs as well. My chars are open.


Was your shield expensive? have you considered running something like this

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