[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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wiwigvn wrote:

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Millennium wrote:

How do you get enough dex for Solar Guard variant that requires you to run Haste?

On gears. But you may prefer another tree for pure Solar Guards. This thread focuses more on burning spectres and SG are just secondary.

Or on the tree. Agililty and Expertise will give you +60. Practical Application gives you another +20.

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edm161 wrote:

hi. i have some question. i have good rare shaper shield whith 50% block chance for spells. with Rumi up too 60%.i think this enough for spell block or i need take capp 75%? give me advise about amulet slots plz

Is that 60% with Bone Offering up as well? I suspect you'll be max block as soon as you cast BO. :)

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willo77 wrote:

Good question. I can pretty much face tank all guardians and survive all shaper attacks at least once - especially the Armor from Lioneyes plus a flask is really making a difference here. The life gain on block is enough from Bone offering for me. Even without Rumi up I can stand in the middle of every Abbys stream without noticing my life or mana draining.
The only thing that Anvil offers is 3% more block. But you lose a lot of EHP for that...

Well, this specific Anvil also offers 20% increased minion damage. And the extra 500 armour isn't totally ineffectual.

Your point remains, however. It's decent, but Best in Slot? I don't think so either. I'd argue Bisco's for mapping - I can't afford one yet this league - or a good rare with lots of life. Perhaps a corrupt Sidhebreath or Shaper's Seed. I do like to have a collection to choose from...

What about Fire-Eaters? Are they not relevant?

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Foxie1337 wrote:

What about Fire-Eaters? Are they not relevant?

Kind of. Fire Eaters are another excellent single target spectre that deals fire type damage. However, they aren't as good as Tukohama's Vanguards, damage wise anyway.

They do share a lot more gems with Solar Guards, so it's a fair bit easier to run them alongside SGs if you want better single target dps in that setup.

Pretty interested in a gear check for anyone thats willing.

got my second lifetime shaper kill with this build. i was a bit confused when he was already down. i had more problems witch my guardian then with my own HP. super strong build! i switched now to SG for backseat farming. :>

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Millennium wrote:

How do you get enough dex for Solar Guard variant that requires you to run Haste?

Well ideally on gear of course. The tree doesn't provide any real dex, there's just one random travel node between Templar and Witch. We have one +30 node in direct range and one that costs another travel node. Both are fine as temporary solutions.

I have 148 dex over 3 rare items (amulet, gloves and ring) to cover my lvl20 active dex gems. A dedicated dex amulet would top out at 117 dex, so you could get away with only two rares. However if you want to use Bisco's, you need either a +30 node, an evasion helmet (no Bone Helmet*) or two jewel suffixes (+16 dex each rivaling minion cast speed and resists).

edit: There are also two unique jewels that convert either str or int in radius into dex. But I can't calculate their potential values now. (update: I could get 94 dex from Careful Planning)

edit2: *) It's possible to mastercraft 30 dex onto a non-evasion helmet. So that would be optimal combined with high dex rolls on gloves and the rare unset ring.

Level 71 with a Tabula. Saving up for a Vis Mortis. The boss dmg is very nice but the clear feels a bit slow. I played ED Trickster before so I´m a bit spoiled when it comes to clearspeed.

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NoDiscoSisqoOrCalypso wrote:

Level 71 with a Tabula. Saving up for a Vis Mortis. The boss dmg is very nice but the clear feels a bit slow. I played ED Trickster before so I´m a bit spoiled when it comes to clearspeed.

It's true that the ED Trickster is very fast, I have played one during Mayhem. However he is (slightly!) restricted by his 3 button rotation: Shield Charge - Contagion - Essence Drain.
The plan with Spectres is a 1 button rotation: Shield Charge.

That's assuming Solar Guards though and a source of either cold or lightning damage to attacks to proc EE from Shield Charge.