[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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Garfin wrote:

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laserblader wrote:

Hi guys and @Natt, I reach the resist cap easily with commander of darkness.

I am using Victario's Charity Laminated Kite Shield to buff the minions, is this any good?

It's not really useful, as the spectres doesn't get any buffs from power charges and just some move speed/attack speed (only tukos) with the shield.
So imo it's not worth it.

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Natt wrote:

Did a few inconclusive Avarius runs with 2x Dyadus and 1x Dyadus.

1x Innsbury Edge + 1 x Dyadus: 14 and 15 sec
2 x Dyadus: 11 and 13 sec

I would have expected a slightly larger time improvement as the second Dyadus should act as a "50% more" multiplier. I'll test it again at a later time and use a larger sample. A problem is that the Guardian does non-negligible damage with his attacks. Could be remedied by doing a run with only the guardian to get correction values...

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onomastikon wrote:

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Natt wrote:

Did a few inconclusive Avarius runs with 2x Dyadus and 1x Dyadus.

1x Innsbury Edge + 1 x Dyadus: 14 and 15 sec
2 x Dyadus: 11 and 13 sec

I would have expected a slightly larger time improvement as the second Dyadus should act as a "50% more" multiplier. I'll test it again at a later time and use a larger sample. A problem is that the Guardian does non-negligible damage with his attacks. Could be remedied by doing a run with only the guardian to get correction values...

I have three questions about this:

1. Firstly, isn't the bonus granted by Dyadus an "increased" modifier? In other words, shouldn't its (quite significant) bonus be added in to all of the other boni your minions do? IIRC, you have +196% increased minion damage, perhaps you have other increased boni elsewhere, but adding +100% from an off-hand dyadus should yield you a significant bonus (but not double, rather, the difference between about 200% and 300%?), and addition another 100% should also add a nice bonus (if it indeed stacks), but not quite "+50% more", rather the difference between 300% and 400%? That's quite similar to the difference between 11 seconds and 15 seconds (the largest gap)....

2. But then I am unsure about your testing parameters. A difference in two runs has considerable variance: about 15% variation. Aren't so many things going on that may be just too random to tell?

3. Particularly regarding how AG hits. Doesn't the AG need to hit? And presumably, the AG can hit a level 65 mob with quite a large degree of consistency, but do we know what kind of Accuracy the AG has? And if we do: How does it stack up against some of the more elusive end-game bosses? Not only does it need to find the target and hit it quickly enough, it needs to connect. How reliably does it do that? I believe I read that some damage-oriented minions, such as SRS, have notoriously low accuracy, and perhaps the AG has, without further accuracy-oriented items or links, even lower accuracy? (He always struck me as being quite sluggish, also with a long swing animation.)

I'm curious as to everyone's feedback, thank you