[3.15] For Scion - Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

Hey Man, Love your build. Played the slayer version in Harbringer and have decided to try the Scion version now in Abyss. However, Im curious, could lightpoacher be an idea for helm slot instead of devotos?
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kira1414 wrote:

If your friend runs curses, then yes, your curse can cancel off his. You can consider running Hatred or Anger instead.

I'm interested in this as well and I have a question:
Since we use Flammability and Blasphemy for aura, using Hatred/Anger we'd have an empty gem slot, correct ? What would you recommend for it ?
Where does this build pick up frenzy charges from?
Where does this build pick up frenzy charges from?
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Webbhead08 wrote:
Where does this build pick up frenzy charges from?


From the Raider Ascendancy. 10% when attacking Rare or Unique mobs. So basically bosses, and we attack so fast that its pretty quick to get to the max amount which for us is 4 (i think).
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Valienca wrote:
Hey Man, Love your build. Played the slayer version in Harbringer and have decided to try the Scion version now in Abyss. However, Im curious, could lightpoacher be an idea for helm slot instead of devotos?

Lightpoacher is more for mapping and fun. I tried it, I ended up removing it cos I don't find it useful.

You can certainly give it a shot and see how it plays out for you. :)

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Arator95 wrote:

I'm interested in this as well and I have a question:
Since we use Flammability and Blasphemy for aura, using Hatred/Anger we'd have an empty gem slot, correct ? What would you recommend for it ?

Vengeance, Vaal Lightning Trap are all viable options.

In fact vs Shaper:
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Hatred/Anger + Herald of Ash (strongest) >

Flammability + Herald of Ash >

Flammability + Hatred/Anger (weakest)

If you have extra fire damage Watcher's Eye, vs Shaper:
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Anger + Herald of Ash gives the most damage
I'd just like to say I'm easily farming the Shaper (and his heavily modded guardians), thanks to this great build - strong and fun!

PS: Scion is waifu.
Has anyone tried running Green Dream instead of Red Dream? I noticed my frenzy charges don't hold up very well outside of boss fights and I feel like if you pick up Diamond Skin and Barbarism you can sustain endurance charges pretty well without Red Dream or Enduring Cry.

Ty for sharing such a great build btw :)
Enjoying the build so far, just have a couple of questions. There are two chest setups, "With Xoph's Blood (or using Avatar of Fire skill tree)", and "Without Xoph's". But looking at the skill tree setups, the "Without Xoph's" skill tree takes the Avatar of Fire keystone. I'm at the point where I can either start making my way up to Avatar of Fire or follow the other tree. I seriously doubt I'll come up with the currency for a Xoph's before the end of the league. I'm a bit confused as to which skill tree I should be using. So my question is, without a Xoph's, should I be taking Avatar of Fire? Secondly, I got a BBGGRR Ngamahu's for cheap. If I'm supposed to be taking Avatar of Fire, is that the best color setup or would the BGGRRR be better? Thx!
Last edited by Tyraelsstomach on Jan 8, 2018, 3:50:22 PM
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Enjoying the build so far, just have a couple of questions. There are two chest setups, "With Xoph's Blood (or using Avatar of Fire skill tree)", and "Without Xoph's". But looking at the skill tree setups, the "Without Xoph's" skill tree takes the Avatar of Fire keystone. I'm at the point where I can either start making my way up to Avatar of Fire or follow the other tree. I seriously doubt I'll come up with the currency for a Xoph's before the end of the league. I'm a bit confused as to which skill tree I should be using. So my question is, without a Xoph's, should I be taking Avatar of Fire? Secondly, I got a BBGGRR Ngamahu's for cheap. If I'm supposed to be taking Avatar of Fire, is that the best color setup or would the BGGRRR be better? Thx!


If you can not afford Xoph's Blood you have to get the Avatar of Fire skill or the build does not work, follow that tree. To clarify you use the Physical to lightning gem until you pick up the avatar of fir skill. then you change that to another gem.

The differences in the Colors for Ngamahu's if for ignite damage from the balls (damage over time where things die as you cyclone past them) and pure damage version (is technically more damage) in where if they dont die on first pass some mobs have the possibility of living and potentially causing back tracking.

I use the pure damage version.
Last edited by Kelevradog007 on Jan 8, 2018, 4:32:26 PM

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