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humble_genius wrote:

My gear on Abyss SC. Did all content, build still perfectly viable. Currently planning on replacing the rats nest with a 2 socket lightpoacher with barrage enchant (around 40-50ex currently, need to save up a bit of currency). i personally just dont like abyssus, especially in maps.

also looking to replace one of my steel rings (onslaught loop) with one that has wed on it, same with the amulet, should give another nice damage boost. my shaper dps is very nice either way already, so that would just be small bonuses

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Awesome! Yeah, with the introduction of abyss jewels and watcher's eye, it's actually possible to get more damage out of the build that it was pre 3.1, it just takes a bit of work. Because of the new conversion mods on ammy, and watcher's eye using conversion (in addition to the crit), I've actually opted more for Lightning Arrow as my clearing skill this time around since it does damage conversion as well. It kills everything offscreen, you can't even tell this is a point blank character in 3.1 lol...

Also with the new watcher's eye, stygian belt, and ammy, I've gotten myself up to 7.55M. About 2M more shaper dmg than 3.0. I need to update PoB links on the main page.

https://pastebin.com/bJrw3qqg

You can get about 5-9% more damage with a 100% Mirror-tier finished shaper quiver instead of drillneck, but drillneck for ~3ex is still just insane amounts of damage for the price point. Can't get myself to craft a quiver.

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mcnealstash wrote:

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Jd009 wrote:

question: is a +1 arrow shaped quiver, which can roll "adds % physical damage as extra cold", potentially better than a +1 arrow drillneck? especially if we have the elder amulet roll of "non-chaos damage added as extra chaos", since you would get double dipping on the added dmg?

the 50% bonus to pierced shots on drillneck might be hard to beat though, but with shaped quiver we could potentially drop the pierce nodes on tree and grab an extra jewel socket

A shaped quiver is now best in slot for doomfletch if you have good enough jewels.

Unfortunately I don't have a broadhead quiver base. t1 WED is still better than t1 phys to cold.

This shaped quiver netted me 5% more dps than a +1 drillneck with max roll did- a perfect +1 arrow broadhead would be about 15% more total dps than a +1 drillneck assuming that you have decent gear. Perfect +2 quiver would be about 25% more total dps. Rare quivers are now best in slot for this build because we can scale heavy phys damage on abyss jewels so we no longer need the big phys provided by drillneck. I'll link some of my jewels below:

By "perfect" quiver I mean t1 life, t1 WED, and +1 arrow prefixes as well as t1 crit multi, t1 accuracy or crit chance, and crafted attack speed.

Yeah, obviously a corrupted +2 arrow (thus non-mirrorable) quiver with all the juicy mods on it would be BiS for this build. But if someone actually created one of these, I would be really surprised.

In league, the quivers might be a bit more desirable in conjunction with the flat phys on abyss jewels, and if you're not using a kaoms/abyssus combo, but in standard where +2 barrage Abyssus helms are still available that might not be the case.

On my character in standard, I'm sitting at 7.556M and 7k life with drillneck (which I bought for 1ex btw) https://pastebin.com/85ETSVcc
With your quiver linked, 7.394M https://pastebin.com/SM63jwNE

With this 100% PERFECT theoretical Life broadhead:

I would gain 4.3% Damage, getting 7.879M and sit at 7.1k life - not really worth the jump from a 1ex item to a mirrored item.
https://pastebin.com/i0GpLkEz

Okay, so let's try pure damage instead.

With this 100% PERFECT theoretical Damage broadhead:

I would gain 10% more damage, getting 8.35M and sit at 6.8k life - this would potentially be worth it.
https://pastebin.com/Hz55KHFQ

However, I'm killing shaper this quickly with my current gear, and a 1ex quiver:



And the thing about mirrored gear is that you got to think is it worth it to make the item? Will it be mirrored?

Rings and Amulets are the best because they can be used across multiple builds, and they have no sockets.

Quivers are OKAY because they have no sockets, but you will only use them on bow builds, as opposed to the rings/ammy you can use across really any build. Melee, wander, bower, whatever.

Also re: abyss jewels vs. regular jewels. Yes, if you want to go for PURE damage, then double flat phys on the abyss jewels on tree is the way to go and using a crit% chest is also. But, if you do that you'll be sitting probably around 5.5k life. I personally would rather have 7k life and a bit less damage. When you're wearing a kaoms, life% on normal rare jewels is really nice, and you can still get mods like multi/8ias/proj dmg on regular jewels.

In the end, it really just depends what you want.

How do you factor in the damage from drillneck?

Edit: just looked at it- with my current gear and figured it out, I'm getting .7% more dps with the extra damage from the drillneck pierce. However, it means I have to pick up the pierce wheel on the tree, which is a significant damage loss compared to picking up something like the winter spirit wheel or aspect of the eagle. In the end, it's more worth it for me to use the shaped quiver- this is with my shitty multimodded quiver btw. If my quiver had t1 WED it would mean about 4-5% more total dps. Alt regaling a decent +arrow shaped quiver shouldn't be too difficult- I'm guessing it would take about 8-10 ex to get one eventually.

Hello, great guide man, I'm a newbie and honestly, after you finish acts and go to maps, it's really hard to survive, keep dying on t2 maps, what should I do? Normal monsters are OK, rares as well, can't deal with boss or abyss (aka the green dot). Any help please?

Same here, almost every boss on t8+ maps oneshots me. Damage is ok, but for a build, that utilies 6l and require almost 10ex (5+ ex DS, 2+ex ToH, 2+ex KH<, 4+ex 6l DP) just to work its survivibility is almost zero. Maybe it was working good before VP nerf, but mow its not good. I dont even know, how many ex you need to make this build survive

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ArendelleCZE wrote:

Hello, great guide man, I'm a newbie and honestly, after you finish acts and go to maps, it's really hard to survive, keep dying on t2 maps, what should I do? Normal monsters are OK, rares as well, can't deal with boss or abyss (aka the green dot). Any help please?

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Секторатор wrote:

Same here, almost every boss on t8+ maps oneshots me. Damage is ok, but for a build, that utilies 6l and require almost 10ex (5+ ex DS, 2+ex ToH, 2+ex KH<, 4+ex 6l DP) just to work its survivibility is almost zero. Maybe it was working good before VP nerf, but mow its not good. I dont even know, how many ex you need to make this build survive

If you're too squishy, don't use abyssus, try lightpoacher with dual physical dmg jewels.

Also, use cwdt-imm call instead of the boss farming setup of orb of storms. Orb of storms/pcoc should only be used if you're farming shaper/guardians. For maps and leveling do cwdt-imm call. This is all covered in the written and video guide.

Read the guide/watch the video again, read the reviews. 2nd post on first page. See what others have been doing. Lots of information here.

Concentrate on getting life% on all jewels, high life roll on all items, rings with no life or ~30life is not that good if you're feeling squishy.

Taste of hate is great for defense, as well as offense.

balancing wise oak (at least 2) combined with ToH is even better - don't forget about this. It's not JUST for damage.

You're not going to facetank bosses with 5c items or 30 life rolls on your gear at level 75. This build really shines at 90+ while properly geared.

hey would you change anything for hc ? besides not wearing abyssus ?
i would like to try this build but im not sure if i should pick pathfinder or a more defensive option ?

im a total noob at bow builds thanks for advice : )

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Секторатор wrote:

Same here, almost every boss on t8+ maps oneshots me. Damage is ok, but for a build, that utilies 6l and require almost 10ex (5+ ex DS, 2+ex ToH, 2+ex KH<, 4+ex 6l DP) just to work its survivibility is almost zero. Maybe it was working good before VP nerf, but mow its not good. I dont even know, how many ex you need to make this build survive

Don't use Abyssus. At all. It's basically for Shaper only because the physical damage taken increase is far too much. It's not about Vaal Pact's nerf so much as you'll die to one-shots. You don't even need it for smashing other content, and there's a lot of great substitute helms.

I speculated in the past it might be possible with a mitigation Vinktar and Lightning Coil in the mix, but it's just not a realistic investment. Abyssus on maps is a matter of "Will I kill it before it gets to me?"

Please, can anyone say if this build might work with legacy Reach of the Council? o.o

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markus7 wrote:

Please, can anyone say if this build might work with legacy Reach of the Council? o.o

Reach doesn't convert physical to elemental by default. You'd be better off following a physical conversion (or just a physical) build to achieve the desired scaling necessary.