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JonesJM wrote:

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subiedude8 wrote:

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JonesJM wrote:

Ok i need help, i just cannot sustain abyssus. At LVL 85 getting one shot by alot of bosses and my life leech just cannot keep up.
This is my current gear.

Spoiler

I got a Taste of hate AND a basalt flask, my next goal is to get fortify somewhere in there. What am i doing wrong ? I cant even imagine doing something like chimera or mino with abyssus. Currently sitting at 5,5k life.
Any help would be really nice.

quick edit: Also using the Lioneyes jewel to get the claw nodes.

You need way more flat phys on your jewelry. You can do what I did and buy budget steels with no phys roll and elreon craft the phys on until to can afford gg rings.

With your poor flat phys you need to be running chance to bleed instead of crit gem in 6L.

abyssus is only for shaper. Take it off and run something like rats nest or starkonjas if you want more life.

If you aren't going to run wise oak pick up atziris promise.

Hmm, im gonna try that. Does the extra flat phys damage really make a huge difference ?

Also problem is getting enough strength for the Kaoms, those rings get expensive as hell.

Notice how I have almost no attributes on my rings? Way too expensive. It is way cheaper to get strength on the tree, belt boots, and the amulet than it is on steels.

Also you don't need kaoms to do shaper and guardian. Eninya posted videos on youtube of deathless shaper and guardian videos and I remember him wearing yriels.

Yes flat phys is king. Doomfletch converts all your flat phys to ele dmg.

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subiedude8 wrote:

@Ahfack/Eninya

I was messing around with PoB and created jewelery with T1 flat phys rolls to replace what I'm currently wearing.

I put abyssus on and took biscos off for this simulation.

Why is chance to bleed still dominating increased crits in my 6L even after making these simulated changes? I'm at a loss here.

Ignore the ice bite in the 6L, I accidentally put it there before I logged out. I used the PPAD gem for the PoB sim.

As mentioned under doomfletchc2:

For Barrage, your single target skill you will have:



IF YOU LACK FLAT PHYS ON GEAR AND NOT USING ABYSSUS, USE CHANCE TO BLEED IN PLACE OF INC CRIT STRIKES

Slower projectiles is MARGINALLY better than Maim/Chance to bleed. I don't have a 21/20 main/chance to bleed yet, as they just came out, but PoB still calculates slower projectiles marginally better. When it's all said and done, I'll probably choose to use 21/20 chance to bleed so my projectiles are faster. Chance to bleed is this powerful because it adds flat phys to our attack, and for us that is a BIG deal.

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Ahfack wrote:

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subiedude8 wrote:

@Ahfack/Eninya

I was messing around with PoB and created jewelery with T1 flat phys rolls to replace what I'm currently wearing.

I put abyssus on and took biscos off for this simulation.

Why is chance to bleed still dominating increased crits in my 6L even after making these simulated changes? I'm at a loss here.

Ignore the ice bite in the 6L, I accidentally put it there before I logged out. I used the PPAD gem for the PoB sim.

As mentioned under doomfletchc2:

For Barrage, your single target skill you will have:

IF YOU LACK FLAT PHYS ON GEAR AND NOT USING ABYSSUS, USE CHANCE TO BLEED IN PLACE OF INC CRIT STRIKES

Slower projectiles is MARGINALLY better than Maim/Chance to bleed. I don't have a 21/20 main/chance to bleed yet, as they just came out, but PoB still calculates slower projectiles marginally better. When it's all said and done, I'll probably choose to use 21/20 chance to bleed so my projectiles are faster. Chance to bleed is this powerful because it adds flat phys to our attack, and for us that is a BIG deal.

Chance to bleed more DPS than Crit Strikes - Why Crit Strikes?

Yes, you will get 3-5% more damage on paper with chance to bleed than crit chance, but then we'll be running around with about 40%CC-60%ECC which is just way too low and unreliable in my eyes since we benefit from multi so much. With Crit Stikes we're sitting at 60%CC-80%ECC which is the sweet spot for us.

I think you missed the part where I said I was using abyssus AND high flat phys jewelery in the simulation. T1 rolls. I literally crafted the jewelry in PoB, and it's still telling me chance to bleed is the clear winner which totally contradicts you.

So either I'm bad at PoB or there is another stat other than flat phys that is causing this result.

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subiedude8 wrote:

Notice how I have almost no attributes on my rings? Way too expensive. It is way cheaper to get strength on the tree, belt boots, and the amulet than it is on steels.

Also you don't need kaoms to do shaper and guardian. Eninya posted videos on youtube of deathless shaper and guardian videos and I remember him wearing yriels.

Yes flat phys is king. Doomfletch converts all your flat phys to ele dmg.

Is Kaoms really safe to drop `? If i drop it now im almost at 4.3k hp prolly close to 4.5 with a yriels. I already feel like a glass cannon. It would give me the currency i need for better rings tho.

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subiedude8 wrote:

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Ahfack wrote:

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subiedude8 wrote:

@Ahfack/Eninya

I was messing around with PoB and created jewelery with T1 flat phys rolls to replace what I'm currently wearing.

I put abyssus on and took biscos off for this simulation.

Why is chance to bleed still dominating increased crits in my 6L even after making these simulated changes? I'm at a loss here.

Ignore the ice bite in the 6L, I accidentally put it there before I logged out. I used the PPAD gem for the PoB sim.

As mentioned under doomfletchc2:

For Barrage, your single target skill you will have:

IF YOU LACK FLAT PHYS ON GEAR AND NOT USING ABYSSUS, USE CHANCE TO BLEED IN PLACE OF INC CRIT STRIKES

Slower projectiles is MARGINALLY better than Maim/Chance to bleed. I don't have a 21/20 main/chance to bleed yet, as they just came out, but PoB still calculates slower projectiles marginally better. When it's all said and done, I'll probably choose to use 21/20 chance to bleed so my projectiles are faster. Chance to bleed is this powerful because it adds flat phys to our attack, and for us that is a BIG deal.

Chance to bleed more DPS than Crit Strikes - Why Crit Strikes?

Yes, you will get 3-5% more damage on paper with chance to bleed than crit chance, but then we'll be running around with about 40%CC-60%ECC which is just way too low and unreliable in my eyes since we benefit from multi so much. With Crit Stikes we're sitting at 60%CC-80%ECC which is the sweet spot for us.

I think you missed the part where I said I was using abyssus AND high flat phys jewelery in the simulation. T1 rolls. I literally crafted the jewelry in PoB, and it's still telling me chance to bleed is the clear winner which totally contradicts you.

So either I'm bad at PoB or there is another stat other than flat phys that is causing this result.

Read the spoiler

Use it if you'd like, but I prefer higher crit so it's more reliable

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JonesJM wrote:

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subiedude8 wrote:

Notice how I have almost no attributes on my rings? Way too expensive. It is way cheaper to get strength on the tree, belt boots, and the amulet than it is on steels.

Also you don't need kaoms to do shaper and guardian. Eninya posted videos on youtube of deathless shaper and guardian videos and I remember him wearing yriels.

Yes flat phys is king. Doomfletch converts all your flat phys to ele dmg.

Is Kaoms really safe to drop `? If i drop it now im almost at 4.3k hp prolly close to 4.5 with a yriels. I already feel like a glass cannon. It would give me the currency i need for better rings tho.

For mapping you don't need kaoms because you 1 shot most of the packs. Kaoms protects you from one shots from guardians.

I don't want to tell you to sell any of your items but imo the +1 drillneck is not necessary for mapping. It's a shaper dps luxury basically and is very expensive. The rest of your gear suffered because you invested 7ex into the arrow corruption.

I bought my +1 after I got all my other gear in check first and tbh with you my jewelry still could be way better but I'll just never have the currency to upgrade.

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Ahfack wrote:

Read the spoiler

Use it if you'd like, but I prefer higher crit so it's more reliable

I'll double check when I get home but I recall it being a 300k dps difference when I expected it to be more in line with your 3% estimate.

I have a feeling I messed up the configuration somehow.

Thanks for your help though. Appreciate it.

Tried this build earlier in the league. Unfortunately I'm not that good at currency farming in new leagues so gave up on the build. +2 barrage Abyssus was just too damn expensive, as were good rolled steel rings. Price has gone down a bit....think the market got kinda saturated with everyone joining the crafting hype for Doomfletch.

Nothing wrong with the build, it's just that you don't get to instagib guardians like in the OP vids when you're on a sub 50ex budget.

So I sold all my gear, and swapped to Chin Sol Ice Shot/Barrage build made some time ago by Mathil. Seeing him with such high dps on such low budget got me triggered.

Now at lvl 98, with a total of 30-40ex invested into the build. Sitting at 6.3k life, and 7.28m Shaper dps.

PoB link:
https://pastebin.com/86mj9W57

Recorded a Phoenix run too:
https://youtu.be/htyBYzVi6Tc

Regardless, this is an awesome build guide Ahfack! I still have it in my favourites so I can try it out in Standard, where I have a bit more currency, when league is over.

Also, it's quite rare seeing an OP beeing so invested in his build thread and taking the time to answering so many questions. Even more so late in the league. Just wanna say thanks, and keep up the good work!

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subiedude8 wrote:

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Ahfack wrote:

Read the spoiler

Use it if you'd like, but I prefer higher crit so it's more reliable

I'll double check when I get home but I recall it being a 300k dps difference when I expected it to be more in line with your 3% estimate.

I have a feeling I messed up the configuration somehow.

Thanks for your help though. Appreciate it.

No problem! Well, depending on your setup it can be between 3-7% difference. Maim is also a good jewel as well. Again, this is all just my preference and what I think works the best. I'm not trying to have the absolute most damage, or I'd use yriel's instead of Kaom etc... but I was trying to create what I thought worked the best overall. :)