[3.8] LiftingNerdBro's Tri/Quad Frostbolt Totems Hierophant - Strong League Starter!

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LiftingNerdBro wrote:

I think there will be 2 viable versions now. One similar in design with 4 totems and another variant that leaves out ancestral bond, but adds in a specific single target damage setup in the chest as supplemental damage.

Well, that's definitely a good idea :D Most of the time two totems are enough to clear entire areas, can't wait for the update.

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LiftingNerdBro wrote:

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TheLelik wrote:

LiftingNerdBro
Ty for the guide!
Please update for 3.2!

You are welcome - and I will!

I think there will be 2 viable versions now. One similar in design with 4 totems and another variant that leaves out ancestral bond, but adds in a specific single target damage setup in the chest as supplemental damage.

I will give you guys an update within the next 12 hours :)

sounds great! Waiting for update :-) love this buid. Thanks

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razzor1 wrote:

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Nagamon wrote:

Does any one have a 1h and shield variant ? just thinking that would have to travel to the shadow area if i wanted to take it with out the staff to move faster. any idea or pob.

I will start the league with a similar build.

First budget I will go double kikazaru with soul mantle self flagellation + dual shimmeron. Later on when I got enough currency I will go for shimmeron + new atziri's reflection for unaffected by curses. This will free up two ring slots for me.

This was my plan, too. But with Shimmeron(s) you need "Conviction of Power" for easy power charges (and 3 extra power charges on tree). And you need to keep up your arcane surge on your own.

I played around in PoB a bit. I started with new atziri's reflection and 1 Shimmeron. If I replace the Shimmeron with a good caster dagger, skip that 3 extra power charges on tree (for other damage nodes) and take ("Arcane Blessing" + "Ritual of Awakening") in stead of ("Conviction of Power" + "Ritual of Awakening" + "Divine Guidance") I get nearly the same DPS as with Shimmeron(s). I loose about 7% DPS only. The benefits of this way are: Shield Charge and immunity to Elemental Ailments. And you trade the manual arcane surge generation for a manual power charge generation in boss fights (not a benefit but not a drawback also). Yeah, I loose "Divine Guidance": this is a small drawback.

But I think I will skip Shimmeron(s) this time.

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boindd wrote:

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razzor1 wrote:

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Nagamon wrote:

Does any one have a 1h and shield variant ? just thinking that would have to travel to the shadow area if i wanted to take it with out the staff to move faster. any idea or pob.

I will start the league with a similar build.

First budget I will go double kikazaru with soul mantle self flagellation + dual shimmeron. Later on when I got enough currency I will go for shimmeron + new atziri's reflection for unaffected by curses. This will free up two ring slots for me.

This was my plan, too. But with Shimmeron(s) you need "Conviction of Power" for easy power charges (and 3 extra power charges on tree). And you need to keep up your arcane surge on your own.

I played around in PoB a bit. I started with new atziri's reflection and 1 Shimmeron. If I replace the Shimmeron with a good caster dagger, skip that 3 extra power charges on tree (for other damage nodes) and take ("Arcane Blessing" + "Ritual of Awakening") in stead of ("Conviction of Power" + "Ritual of Awakening" + "Divine Guidance") I get nearly the same DPS as with Shimmeron(s). I loose about 7% DPS only. The benefits of this way are: Shield Charge and immunity to Elemental Ailments. And you trade the manual arcane surge generation for a manual power charge generation in boss fights (not a benefit but not a drawback also). Yeah, I loose "Divine Guidance": this is a small drawback.

But I think I will skip Shimmeron(s) this time.

I played around with my pob after your post:

1. 2x Shimmeron is the highest dps
2. 2x Spelldagger(5ex ea.) with 6/3 pcharges is -20/-30%
3. 1x Shimmer with 6charges is -27%
4. 1x Shimmer with 3 charges is -44%
5. 1x Dagger with 3 charges is -46%

I think it all comes down to what you want to do and how you want to do it. If your are fine to manage curses with flask and want to farm bosses dual Shimms are by far the best. If you just want to speedfarm maps its option 5. The Dagger(s)and/or Shield option is also a lot more expensive.
I think I will stick to Shimms for week 1 at least and make myself a second setup when I got the currency.


If you skip Devine Guidance you loose 10% MoM Effect and a ton of Mana, that imho is the drawback not the pcharge generation. I am going for 50% MoM(watchers eye clarity) so not an option. Illuminated Devotion as a standalone is crap so pcharges is the better way, I also have 3 echarges which I would loose, again a defensive drawback. You also only get a lvl1 surge while manually you can get a lvl 8-12.

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LiftingNerdBro wrote:

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TheLelik wrote:

LiftingNerdBro
Ty for the guide!
Please update for 3.2!

You are welcome - and I will!

I think there will be 2 viable versions now. One similar in design with 4 totems and another variant that leaves out ancestral bond, but adds in a specific single target damage setup in the chest as supplemental damage.

I will give you guys an update within the next 12 hours :)

Yay Can't wait! I loved your builds the past few seasons!

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FreedomOI wrote:

I played around with my pob after your post:

1. 2x Shimmeron is the highest dps
2. 2x Spelldagger(5ex ea.) with 6/3 pcharges is -20/-30%
3. 1x Shimmer with 6charges is -27%
4. 1x Shimmer with 3 charges is -44%
5. 1x Dagger with 3 charges is -46%

I think it all comes down to what you want to do and how you want to do it. If your are fine to manage curses with flask and want to farm bosses dual Shimms are by far the best. If you just want to speedfarm maps its option 5. The Dagger(s)and/or Shield option is also a lot more expensive.
I think I will stick to Shimms for week 1 at least and make myself a second setup when I got the currency.


If you skip Devine Guidance you loose 10% MoM Effect and a ton of Mana, that imho is the drawback not the pcharge generation. I am going for 50% MoM(watchers eye clarity) so not an option. Illuminated Devotion as a standalone is crap so pcharges is the better way, I also have 3 echarges which I would loose, again a defensive drawback. You also only get a lvl1 surge while manually you can get a lvl 8-12.

Can you compare shimmeron + void battery to 2x shimmerons in pob?

Endgame viable? Shaper, uber atziri, chayula?

P.S. I think it's something wrong with pob pastebin?

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Wolverine67 wrote:

Endgame viable? Shaper, uber atziri, chayula?

Read weaknesses of the build man

The build guide has now been updated for 3.2!

The Hierophant have gotten some nice changes. For us this means that besides what we used to get, we now also benefit from:

+ 100% Increased Totem Duration
+ 50% Totem Placement Speed
+ 0.5% Mana regen per second per totem
+ 1% Life regen per second per totem (for totems and templar)
+ 1 Additional Totem with Pursuit of Faith (With Ancestral bond that is 3 totems after Normal lab!!)
+ 1 Additional Totem from Ritual of Awakening
+ Totems no longer suffer a "less%" multiplier = HUGE damage boost.

+ 50% chance to gain a power charge when placing a totem (This is a huge QoL upgrade. No longer do we need orb of storms + power charge on crit to sustain charges on boss fights)
+ 5% reduced elemental damage taken while we have an endurance charge
+ Damage Penetrates 5% Ele resist while we have a power charge.

General changes to the build:
- Removed The Pandemonius amulet. I do not think it is worth the cost and a life + spell damage and crit multi amulet is just as good, if not better because of the additional utility it provides.
- Removed Rumi's Concoction. A well rolled basalt flask is simply better late game.
- Updated the skill-gem setup section to fit in Frost Bomb (more damage), Arcane Surge setup and Frostbolt gem priority.
- We now use a Lightning Golem instead of a Flame golem for more damage overall.

TL:DR We have been buffed, there are no nerfs! HIEROPHANTS REJOICE, OUR PURSUIT OF FAITH HAVE FINALLY PAID OF!
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For now I have simply updated and polished the build as you know it from 3.0/3.1. This means it still utilizes Ancestral Bond for 4 totems, which is great, but I am curious about making it work without Ancestral Bond and instead relying 3 totems, but also having a dedicated single target damage setup in the chest. This is going to require some testing however and I wont be able to do that before a week or 2 into the league. If I come up with something good I'll post it here.

For now stick to the old version, but feel free to go dagger + shield if you prefer! =)

Good luck in Bestiary League guys!