[3.9?] Sidefx Frost Blades - Hyped for Support +

what Pantheon is recommended for this build?

NVM
Thank you @erimin5

Good grief.

The FAQ is there for a reason now read it. All the answers are there.

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Rickyg32 wrote:

Hi I'm struggling to finish rare/corrupted tier 11s atm, dying too easily.

Any quick adjustments on my gear I could make?

I have ~100chaos to spend.

Also what should i aim for ultimately.

Your gem setups are not optimal. Don't link elemental supports to your Warchief, it should only deal 40% elemental damage (check your charscreen "Offense" and select the Warchief attack, should list mostly phys damage which isn't supported by WED and Elemental Focus).

You might also want to incorporate the 4x blue setup with Frostbite and Power charges (only vs bosses)

Your flasks probably have improved since you first asked but you still lack 20% quality on some of them plus I consider the second life flask redundant. A diamond flask is a big damage boost.

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OverBox wrote:

I don't understand... in the guide you say that for ascendancy we should take :
Raider: Rapid Assault - Avatar of Chase - Way of the Poacher - Avatar of the Slaughter

However on the passive skill trees, you haven't taken these. What should I do ?

Avatar of the Veil. You want that ailment immunity plus you can't keep your on-kill Onslaught up during bosses anyway. Though that's my opinion. The guide says Chase.

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mysexylove50 wrote:

Hi Sidefx, thanks for the build
I got 1 questions tho
> consider that this is a crit build , isnt Increase Crit Damage better than Ruthless or Cold Penetrate

I've posted some gem comparisons not too long ago. Should be on p149 or 148.

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Fair_Enough wrote:

So far I am only A10, lvl66 with this build and haven't even gotten into mapping yet, but before I go further I was wondering if this is one of the better 3.0 FB builds or if I'm just going to waste my time going further. It might sound harsh but recently I've been doing some looking around at other FB builds and personally they just seem much more reasonable overall. Can this build even do Atziri without spending hundreds of Chaos? I'd appreciate if someone could just look around at my build currently and point out anything I should change or take note of, thanks <3.
Edit: I have plenty of fun on this build and I don't need it to be capable of every possible endgame goal but, how far can I really take this without spending lets say 150+ chaos. (I'm pretty poor :P)

It is a nice clearspeed build that lacks on the defensive end vs bosses. If you like that, go ahead, if you want something more tanky, look on the left side of the passive tree.
Since you already have the claws, the only expensive piece left is the Belly. But expect to pay ~90c for a 5L with 40% life. A 6L is >500c. For the 5L I'd say t12 is the limit.

edit: Normal Atziri is a non-issue since she's only lvl70. But you want to swap Frostblades to (for example) Blade Flurry so you don't instakill yourself in the split phase. I killed her with a lvl1 Blade Flurry ;)

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Dergmore wrote:

So I'm a little confused about the two curse setup. Should I be removing the frostbite gem when I fight bosses so only assassins mark will be cast and vice versa?

You mixed them up. The Assassin's Mark provides you with power charges during the map clear because some mobs will shatter, spread the curse and those mobs will die before you realize they have the curse. A boss will usually not be afflicted by AM for you don't have adds to shatter next to him. That wouldn't be a priority to do either. You want Frostbite (or Enfeeble!) on the boss. I'm running Enfeeble on my CWDT setup to mitigate the damage input from anything close to me and I don't overwrite it with Frostbite against bosses that can one-shot me (Vault boss for example).


my own progress:
I fought my first guadian this weekend (Phoenix, white map) and I need to rethink my gemming strategy. The numbers I posted are correct, but I feel like Multistrike is mechanically detrimental when you have to dodge certain attacks. The Phoenix's discharge is lethal for me (at 5.5k hp + 200 ES) so I need to move out of it. I may lack experience with the fight (as in better anticipating his moves) but I had better defensive success without Multistrike since that locks me in place for a while.
Ruthless looks like a natural choice to swap with MS but then it can't be in the main setup. I'm not decided on a final setup yet.
I need to research Chilling vs Guardians/Shaper to see if Hypothermia is either mandatory or garbage vs them.

Thanks, Sidefx06, for the great fun! Today i finaly kill all guardians, and Shaper himself. Positioning and kite is all you need to without 100500ex kill endgame. Hardest part was Chimera's pets.

https://pastebin.com/97Zbr2dL

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fenix143 wrote:

Thanks, Sidefx06, for the great fun! Today i finaly kill all guardians, and Shaper himself. Positioning and kite is all you need to without 100500ex kill endgame. Hardest part was Chimera's pets.

https://pastebin.com/97Zbr2dL

Thank you and im super glad you enjoyed it! If you record any videos please feel free to post and I will add them to the guide Cheers!

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Solmyr77 wrote:

I feel like Multistrike is mechanically detrimental when you have to dodge certain attacks. The Phoenix's discharge is lethal for me (at 5.5k hp + 200 ES) so I need to move out of it. I may lack experience with the fight (as in better anticipating his moves) but I had better defensive success without Multistrike since that locks me in place for a while. Ruthless looks like a natural choice to swap with MS but then it can't be in the main setup. I'm not decided on a final setup yet.

I need to research Chilling vs Guardians/Shaper to see if Hypothermia is either mandatory or garbage vs them.

Guardians/Shaper/Atziri are chill/freeze inmune. Hypothermia is only good for clearspeed if you lack dps and a dead link in maps with avoid status ailments. There is no replacement for MS, autoaim + AS are BiS on this build in any map but Atziri.

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Dergmore wrote:

So I'm a little confused about the two curse setup. Should I be removing the frostbite gem when I fight bosses so only assassins mark will be cast and vice versa?

from what it looks like you would use orb of storms on bosses to get the curse on them.

There is no Pantheon mention anywhere in FAQ or in this thread, I'm a brand new player and want to know which one this build calls for so I know which one to upgrade with Vessels

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WheezyX wrote:

Guardians/Shaper/Atziri are chill/freeze inmune. Hypothermia is only good for clearspeed if you lack dps and a dead link in maps with avoid status ailments. There is no replacement for MS, autoaim + AS are BiS on this build in any map but Atziri.

Can you give me a source for that? My understanding was that GGG removed the Chill immunities in 3.0.

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Many unique monsters which were previously immune to Ailments have had their immunities removed, with the exception of Freeze. Notably, this includes several Beyond Demons, the Atziri Trio, Atziri herself, The Shaper and his Guardians, among others.

I just wonder whether cold damage automatically chills or if it needs to meet a certain damage threshold.

About MS, well, I'm not so sure. It's neither among the top 5 support gems damage-wise in PoB (at least with my gear) nor do I need the auto aim vs a single boss. But being locked in place for 3 consecutive attacks (at +90% haste) has killed me several times. At least I'd like to blame it on that ;)

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Solmyr77 wrote:

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Darkkillaz wrote:

see my profile someone that control this build ^^

Well, there is nothing too bad imo. Your unique helm and belt don't do much for your life amount though the belt's special property may help avoid some one-shots. I can't quantify that effect, sorry.
Your boots are neither evasion nor armor based so you lack some defenses there, but I doubt that's much of an issue.

Flasks.. like almost everyone else's they aren't optimized. At least quality them up.

On the passive tree you missed Winter Spirit which could be huge. Assuming you only convert 80% phys into cold without it, 20% of your damage isn't scaled by elemental bonuses.
You also missed a Frenzy charge (next to the Claw Wheel).

If you want to know, which nodes to regret, please consult PoB yourself ;)

edit:
Your rings, amulet and gloves serve defensively, you want to find items now that have equal defenses plus offensive stats. Cold pen seems to be an inferior choice.

TY LOVE!