[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

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tomatopotato wrote:

Not sure if you're comparing to Elementalist or just your own Necro Flame Golem configuration, but I'm somewhat doubtful that the Flame Golem+Spectres combo can do 3-4x boss damage compared to a properly built Golementalist. I've seen most of the Golem+Spectre videos. They're fast, but not 3-4x, not even double. I'd like to see an example if you have one.

well a well builded spectre + golems on a necromancer can deal increadible damage i could demonstrate you how good spectres + golems can be w/o any tukohama+wickerman shenanigans. only 4 solar guards +
4 flame golems. msg me when you are available.

ps: i want to build a 6 golem golementalist with a victario's charity. but thats me w/o seeing what GGG will change in necromancer.

Damn mika2salo,

Now I'm getting jazzed for maybe running my first Occultist if necro gets nerfed. Nice write up, this is the kinda stuff I come here for!

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

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tomatopotato wrote:

Not sure if you're comparing to Elementalist or just your own Necro Flame Golem configuration, but I'm somewhat doubtful that the Flame Golem+Spectres combo can do 3-4x boss damage compared to a properly built Golementalist. I've seen most of the Golem+Spectre videos. They're fast, but not 3-4x, not even double. I'd like to see an example if you have one.

well a well builded spectre + golems on a necromancer can deal increadible damage i could demonstrate you how good spectres + golems can be w/o any tukohama+wickerman shenanigans. only 4 solar guards +
4 flame golems. msg me when you are available.

ps: i want to build a 6 golem golementalist with a victario's charity. but thats me w/o seeing what GGG will change in necromancer.

Hey :)

Yep, Golems + Specters are expremely strong combo. TV Specters far out-do Elementalists extra Golems damage and can tank endgame bosses even without using Soul Weaver. Just having minion life support on them, and Animate Guardian giving them 6% regen per sec keeps them alive and dealing huge amounts of damage.

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sumfight wrote:

Damn mika2salo,

Now I'm getting jazzed for maybe running my first Occultist if necro gets nerfed. Nice write up, this is the kinda stuff I come here for!

Hey ^^

Glad to hear your as excited that I am \o/
Heres little teaser about how fast the ES regen really ramps up with the minions :

https://youtu.be/pOY51QFDIw8

Right now game awards minions damage over time kills to player, so I can show the post 3.2.0 system using Tukohama Vanguard Specters that deal only damage over time. Notice how fast ES regen reaches 20 stack and that Chaos explosions happen even with 20% chance.

https://dd.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/80flcr/revamped_ascendancy_class_reveal_necromancer/
New necromancer.
nerf 50% reduced offering effect on you

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Besovskii wrote:

https://dd.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/80flcr/revamped_ascendancy_class_reveal_necromancer/
New necromancer.
nerf 50% reduced offering effect on you

Hey and thanks for the news! ^^



So block chance with Offering got the nerf but that was long waited. Necro is looking still pretty good as going for Soul Weaver doesn't require taking the mostly useless zombies node now. New nodes look pretty interesting and give necro more role as "only" non-golem summoner.

Now that I have the ascendancy nodes, I will be updating skill gems and Ascendancy for the new Necromancer.

I will be adding Storm Burst -> Cast when Channeling -> Desecrate -> (Offering of choise) to the main build as it works fine, saves lots of gem slots and can be customized to add block chance if wanted or just cast speed to maximize minions damage.

Build will have both Golems and Specters as Tukohama Vanguards add lots of boss damage while Golems are still best at clearing maps.

I will make leveling tree and Ascendancies with Necromancer as it offers easiest early game leveling with Specters and can do red tier maps with low investment.

I'll add Occultist as "final" form of the tree that can be selected when all required gear is collected. It should make build even more powerful when we can get more power out of Ascendancy nodes, but leveling with Occultist using minions may be slow and not worth it.

Final build will look a lot like the Golem + Specter variant in post #6. You can check my level 100 char in standard as its public and has very close setup for the final build ;)

mika2salo
thx for your work!
btw this image imho better for fast info about necro changes:

Hi, planning Necro Golems+Vanguards with clayshapers and dual Dyadus on Hot Swap. Seems Like Elementalist is better for pure Golems, but for hybrid Necro is better. The problem i'm struggling with right now is how u proc both EE and Chill for Dyadus while main hand one spoils everything with its fire damage if use smth like spectral throw for that. Elementalist grants chill but looses so much spectre damage, like 50% less. Also want something more reliable than AG.

Hello ! This is one of the best build i have ever read :D I want to do this for the next season and my question is : can i follow your leveling guide as is even with the new changes for the next league? Thanks :D

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Besovskii wrote:

mika2salo
thx for your work!
btw this image imho better for fast info about necro changes:

Hey :)

Thanks for much better picture! I linked it to news section ;)

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Hi, planning Necro Golems+Vanguards with clayshapers and dual Dyadus on Hot Swap. Seems Like Elementalist is better for pure Golems, but for hybrid Necro is better. The problem i'm struggling with right now is how u proc both EE and Chill for Dyadus while main hand one spoils everything with its fire damage if use smth like spectral throw for that. Elementalist grants chill but looses so much spectre damage, like 50% less. Also want something more reliable than AG.

Hi :)

Maybe safest way is to equip dual Dyadus for Animate Guardian and cast Bone Offering with Necro Aegis to keep its block chance up. I haven't tested applying Dyadus buff self, but I think it will be more trouble than worth.

AG with double Dyadus and Icetome seems to do the trick just fine. Without any extra protection AG will die in higher tier maps if not using any shield, so it requires some investment in AGs safety.

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Hello ! This is one of the best build i have ever read :D I want to do this for the next season and my question is : can i follow your leveling guide as is even with the new changes for the next league? Thanks :D

Thanks for support ^^

I will update leveling guide to new tree and Necro Ascendancy. It requires only light work, so It should be done for Thursday. Feel free to use it for leveling ;)

I will add Occultist tree as final version of the tree as alternative for Necromancer once all gear is collected. Build works fine with both classes with good gear and need only slight changes in skill tree for swapping from one to another.

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Hi :)

Maybe safest way is to equip dual Dyadus for Animate Guardian and cast Bone Offering with Necro Aegis to keep its block chance up. I haven't tested applying Dyadus buff self, but I think it will be more trouble than worth.

AG with double Dyadus and Icetome seems to do the trick just fine. Without any extra protection AG will die in higher tier maps if not using any shield, so it requires some investment in AGs safety.

Thanks for answer. Using shield will cost me 1 golem of 5. You also apply EE with stormburst with offering. Dual dyadus gives 200% more damage which i want to apply reliably and animate guardian can go attack adds with boss standing nearby. I thought of clayshaper+dyadus setup with lacerate/sunder to apply EE/Chill, but it'l cost convenient cwc offering benefit. I'm aiming for endgame bossing setup btw.