[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

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Ceefyra wrote:
Trying this build and loving it, one question how come we dont level up immortal call % cast when dmg taken support?

Cee~

High level Cast When Damage Taken will only trigger when you take big amount of damage which can mean a 1 shot attack. And if it is a 1 shot attack, the gem will not proc because the character would be dead.

A low level CWDT will ensure that Immortal Call is proc and you have some decent damage reduction to mitigate the damage from the next incoming attack.

FYI, IC must be within +2 level of CWDT.

E.g. if CWDT is level 5, IC max level will be level 7. A level 8 IC will have to be manually cast.
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kira1414 wrote:
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Ceefyra wrote:
Trying this build and loving it, one question how come we dont level up immortal call % cast when dmg taken support?

Cee~

High level Cast When Damage Taken will only trigger when you take big amount of damage which can mean a 1 shot attack. And if it is a 1 shot attack, the gem will not proc because the character would be dead.

A low level CWDT will ensure that Immortal Call is proc and you have some decent damage reduction to mitigate the damage from the next incoming attack.

FYI, IC must be within +2 level of CWDT.

E.g. if CWDT is level 5, IC max level will be level 7. A level 8 IC will have to be manually cast.


I see, so what is the sweet spot for IC/CWDTS?

Another thing comes to mind, the gem Blood and Sand it says use Sand when mapping and Blood when killing boss shouldn't it be the other way around?
Don't you want more area dmg when you killing a lot of mobs?
Last edited by Ceefyra#3467 on Nov 27, 2019, 10:58:07 PM
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Ceefyra wrote:


I see, so what is the sweet spot for IC/CWDTS?

Another thing comes to mind, the gem Blood and Sand it says use Sand when mapping and Blood when killing boss shouldn't it be the other way around?
Don't you want more area dmg when you killing a lot of mobs?

Sweet spot for CWDT + IC would be:

  • CWDT Lvl 1 + IC Lvl 3
  • CWDT Lvl 6 + IC Lvl 7
  • CWDT Lvl 9 + IC Lvl 11


Sand gives you more area of effect while Blood gives you more area damage.

For mapping, you will have enough damage to kill the mobs so Sand will be better.

Boss however tend to take longer to kill so Blood will give you more damage to bring him down faster.
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kira1414 wrote:
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Ceefyra wrote:


I see, so what is the sweet spot for IC/CWDTS?

Another thing comes to mind, the gem Blood and Sand it says use Sand when mapping and Blood when killing boss shouldn't it be the other way around?
Don't you want more area dmg when you killing a lot of mobs?

Sweet spot for CWDT + IC would be:

  • CWDT Lvl 1 + IC Lvl 3
  • CWDT Lvl 6 + IC Lvl 7
  • CWDT Lvl 9 + IC Lvl 11


Sand gives you more area of effect while Blood gives you more area damage.

For mapping, you will have enough damage to kill the mobs so Sand will be better.

Boss however tend to take longer to kill so Blood will give you more damage to bring him down faster.


Ah thanks a lot mate! But all other gem you just max out right?
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Ceefyra wrote:

Ah thanks a lot mate! But all other gem you just max out right?

You will also want a low level Wave of Conviction (applies a debuff on mobs making them take more fire damage) so that CWDT can proc it.

Apart from that, you will max out other gems (except maybe Enfeeble (if you use it) cos it has really high int requirement).

Btw, there was a typo on the gem level. You will want CWDT to be level 5 and IC to be level 7.
Hi again, another question, on the flask section can you explain why you recommend hallowed hybrid flask so highly?
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Ceefyra wrote:
Hi again, another question, on the flask section can you explain why you recommend hallowed hybrid flask so highly?

Headsman gives 10% more damage if you have killed recently. This will give you more damage when you are fighting bosses that do not spawn minions by killing the worms from the flask.
Hi kira1414

Sorry for my ignorance, new player here. I've been looking for a fun fast paced concecrated path build just because it looked like a fun skill to play a build with.

Given the title of your thread I assumed it uses a mix of cyclone/consecrated path/ tectonic slam for clearing areas and bosses but in all the video and gameplay examples unless I was mistaken consecrated path is rarely/never used?

Am I too understand it's just serving as a supporting skill while cyclone and tectonic slam are the main skills you would be using a majority of the time?
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Novelion wrote:
Hi kira1414

Sorry for my ignorance, new player here. I've been looking for a fun fast paced concecrated path build just because it looked like a fun skill to play a build with.

Given the title of your thread I assumed it uses a mix of cyclone/consecrated path/ tectonic slam for clearing areas and bosses but in all the video and gameplay examples unless I was mistaken consecrated path is rarely/never used?

Am I too understand it's just serving as a supporting skill while cyclone and tectonic slam are the main skills you would be using a majority of the time?

The listed skills are supposed to be used as main skill. In other words, you will pick 1 of the 3 mentioned skill and play that with your character. :)

Personally I prefer Cyclone over the other skills because of the toughness and move as you hit game play.

Consecrated Path is very similar to Flicker Strike except you have way better control on where your character is moving.

Can't wait for POE 2.0 (4.0) to arrive (probably 1+ year from now) as we will be able to have multiple 6L. Combining the skills and play in the build will definitely be possible.
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kira1414 wrote:
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Ceefyra wrote:
Hi again, another question, on the flask section can you explain why you recommend hallowed hybrid flask so highly?

Headsman gives 10% more damage if you have killed recently. This will give you more damage when you are fighting bosses that do not spawn minions by killing the worms from the flask.


Ah i see, so basically the flask is for killing boss that don't summon minions? by boss do you mean map bosses or what other boss are there? sorry im super new to the game

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