[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

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_Tiem wrote:

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Djangooo wrote:

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I get that 3R2B1G is the best roll, but it depends on your jewels and stats. For me, added ignite always came out on top. This means, that for many people, it's not that different compared to added fire. So when they are chroming their chest for all that money, they should KEEP their chest 3B2R since it's 90% the same as 3R. It's also a rare colour.

Rerolling that chest to get a possible 1% dps increase is not worth it in my opinion. It's a thousand times better than 2R2B2G.

Anyway, I'm taking a break from the toon, stranded at 92. Messing with a flicker build inspired by Avatar of Fire :p And the build makes no sense lol! I'm probably gonna rip on bosses, but who knows. You should take a look, it's my first build ever and I didnt put much thought in it haha.

1) You don't use Added Fire, you use Fire Penetration.

2) 3R 2B 1G is ALWAYS better. It's math and numbers are numbers. Regardless of your jewels.

3) You cannot ignite most of the big bosses in this game, so your ignite damage will never exist. The driving force of any elemental build late game is penetration, mostly because trash melts regardless and any end-game boss has lots of resistances.

Fire pen isnt always better, when u get "enough" penetration raw POWER wins. Like we add watchers eye with pen, boots enchant with pen, wise oak and then chance to ignite wins fire pen gem.

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kira1414 wrote:

Valid points. But as mentioned, I will have to see how I can include it without throwing players into confusion when they see 3 different setup available for the chests.

I took a look at your Raider character, you are using Xoph's Blood, so you don't have to pick Avatar of Fire from the skill tree anymore. They don't stack.

Instead, a physical to fire conversion Watcher's Eye probably will be better for you in this case. But I would still go for extra fire Watcher's Eye for the build that you are making. :)

Alright! Cool beans :) Ignite should indeed work. I equipped that Xoph from my cyclonetoon yesterday right before calling it a day, edited my build at work today to remove Avatar of Fire. Taking 40% cold conversion aswell so I'm sitting at 50% phys and 50% of that 40% cold conversion (I hope it works that way).

This way I have not much physical left and can possibly bleed myself with that new jewel to keep my frenzy charges up. Exciting! You really inspired me man. In a ideal world I'd buy a Watcher's eye with both stats, but today there was only 1 for sale for 53 exalts, auwtch.

<== disregard this piece of shit. AoF didn't work obviously as I couldn't apply bleed. Managed to get 99% cold conversion with a watchers eye on hatred. Changed a ton in the build. Going to clear maps with it today/tomorrow and see how it goes. Might even make a guide for it!

Should be the new build! I'll let you know how I fare, who knows, I might inspire you next league ;)

I finally got my Bronn's 5Linked and with acceptable colors. My tooltip damage on cyclone went WAY down but the character still feels okay killing and moves much more quick. I was using all red support previously, adding faster attacks and increased aoe now.



I have had zero luck getting exalteds to drop and I'm not good at the market game yet so I haven't been able to sell anything much so I'm not sure where to upgrade. I can't seem to afford Xophs yet.

Otherwise, I haven't died in days and I haven't found a map I couldn't do yet.

Hi Kira,

This build is amazing! Really enjoying it so far. I have been using the crematorium/ cast on melee kill. how big is the damage difference when compared to the highest damage output setup you recommended in the guide?

Thanks again

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swiftwilly wrote:

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SirLimbo wrote:

I've spent around 3000 chromies now, still cant get my colours right on bronn's :'(

Thankfully I've got two and the one I'm running is 2R2G2B in the meantime but can't get 3R1G2B

you are not doing it right.

you should of bought a 2 socket Bronn and use Vorici's trick..
(just google it, plenty of tutorials on Youtube).

This should be in the guide... I'm currently at 3R 1B run out of jewelers but its a lot easier.....

Have been playing this build for couple days now and feels pretty good. Maybe little slow for chaining maps but pretty nice for lab, guardians and farming red elder.

Sold my sunder gear and bought/crafted some shit





Current cyclone dmg vs shaper in path of building


without any buffs/flask ~234k
With flasks/intimidated/covered in ash ~454k
Hp ~6400
Armour ~11k


With that gear difference with chance to ignite/fire pen is like 1k dps, and when i get 10%pen enchant for boots then chance to ignite wins like ~7k dps. So its not a big deal what colors you use, You wont even notice the difference.

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For aura, you can consider running Anger + Enfeeble for leveling (will definitely need at least Enlighten 3). And switch Enfeeble to Herald of Ash for end game boss fights like Shaper.

So what should my gem setup look like? I currently have Herald of Ash and Leap Slam in the gloves. Enfeeble, Balsphemy Support, Blood Rage, and Enhance Support in the Helmet. And Cast When Damage Taken Support, Increased Duration Support, Immortal Call, and Ancestral Warchief in the Boots.

What changes should i make? Thanks for taking the time to help people out.

been playing the build for a bit now and enjoying it, preparing to get to guardians/shaper now and not sure how to progress gear wise. Its gone a bit off since changes/updates to the guide from when i started so not sure if i need to change up gems and skill set up or upgrade pieces more. I have enough currency for the lab enchants but haven't grabbed it incase i need to focus on other pieces first.

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thanks again for the cool build and any help here would be greatly appreciated.

So the question is what setup do I run now.
I cant afford to cap resists if I am to even obtain Elemental Weakness Tombfist.
PoB says Anger+Flammability but Im not quite sure bout that.

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Jevnigeff wrote:

Fire pen isnt always better, when u get "enough" penetration raw POWER wins. Like we add watchers eye with pen, boots enchant with pen, wise oak and then chance to ignite wins fire pen gem.

Fire pen is always better. Period.