[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

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kira1414 wrote:

Helm wise, besides Devoto, you can also go for Starkonja if you needed that extra life.

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_Tiem wrote:

PSA:

I see most of you guys are running with Elemental Focus on your Ngamahu, which gives a nice multiplicative boost to your projectiles but sadly negates the ignite effect. I would offer an alternative approach: swap out EF for Chance to Ignite. You'll lose some upfront damage, but your projectiles with ignite. The ignite damage isn't much (10%) but what's important is how ignite works.

Once the monsters are burning, any additional fire damage will be added (additive not multiplicative) to the burn as DoT. This means cyclone will actually kick off a substantial amount of DoT (sadly Uber Atziri cannot be ignited) which far exceeds the little added damage you get from EF.

Anyway, just an alternate approach.

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Istad wrote:

Might be a stupid questionbut, when i use avatar of fire in skill tree, wouldn't only 50% of my dmg become fire dmg? And wouldn't that be less than before avatar of fire?

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Istad wrote:

Might be a stupid questionbut, when i use avatar of fire in skill tree, wouldn't only 50% of my dmg become fire dmg? And wouldn't that be less than before avatar of fire?

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kira1414 wrote:

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_Tiem wrote:

Impresence is a poor man's Xoph's. Xoph's is absolutely king. It gives you 10% added life, 10% increased strength, which is about ~50 str, so 25 flat life, which gets scaled by about 200% and 10% increased melee damage, which scaled cyclone. All this on a amber amulet, so add another 30 str. It also covers the enemy in ash, that is 20% increased damage against. The reduced movement speed is great too to keep them in your cyclone and molten bursts. It also brings AoF with it, saving you about 6 nodes. That is absolutely huge. Then on top, you get an additional 10% fire pen. Xoph's just cannot be touched. Flammability brings a fair bit to trash mobs but come end, they explode on a 4L. You want to amplify damage against bosses/guardians/Shaper/Elder/Uber Atziri. Those all either have 80% cursed reduction or even curse reflection. Curses do very little since GGG nerfed them into the ground. TBH, a better curse for mapping is Poacher's Mark, which gives flat life and mana, more flask charges and frenzy charges, so you can opt out of Blood Rage. That or Warlord's Mark, which gives steady ECs, and since we use IC, you'll actually have decent up time rather than a split second of immunity to physical damage.

But yeah, Impresence is ok till you get a Xoph's but in no way shape or form does it outperform it. Not even in the same league.

And using figures to support what @_Tiem said:

Impresence + Double Anger Watcher's Eye + Flammability + Anger + Herald of Ash (no flask no buff)

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Shaper DPS: 250929

Xoph's Blood + Double Anger Watcher's Eye + Anger + Herald of Ash + Covered in Ash (no flask no buff)

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Shaper DPS: 339063

In short, you want to focus damage on end game boss and not on regular mobs. The damage to kill Shaper is more than enough to kill regular mobs.

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bravo373 wrote:

So u think Chance to ignite is better than EF? If it is how it works on bosses...or if u have jewel with chance to ignite it will work with EF?