[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

I feel like Im starting to fall off a bit in terms of damage. The ammys are too expensive for me to afford. I was thinking of getting an essence worm to run anger but do you think Ill lose out too much on other stats? What would be the next step in upgrading?

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kira1414 wrote:

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jujib3z wrote:

The problem is I already have Xoph's. Am I just giving up on the Anger dream? I wouldn't be able to really get rid of one of my rings- they provide too much res for me and are one of the main sources of it.

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kira1414 wrote:

In that case you should run Xoph's Blood + Watcher's Eye. Run Anger + Herald of Ash.

Get a pair of gloves similar to this:

So then I would be getting rid of Flammability? I assume I could just go for the helm enchant once I can afford a Devoto's with one? Let's assume I get a pair of Steelscales, how would I re-color/re-socket my boots/gloves/helm accordingly now that I'm ditching a blue gem?



I really appreciate your help/you wasting your time with my stupid questions. First time playing a game like POE and I'm so exhausted of researching/youtubing and reading about the million things I don't understand. It's nice having someone explain things to me like this!

can you guys help me with my gear. i sometimes get oneshotted and i have no clue why. my life is kinda low i guess but im working on that. anything else you can notice.

my gear:


jewels:

are the jewels i got so far.

or am i doing something terribly wrong?

Thank you so much man! I can't wait to see this build in action :D!

May I ask which one provides better damage increase, Taste of Hate or Dying Sun? I'm not sure which one to buy first, as I can't really calculate in PoB how much more damage will I get with Dying Sun.

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nekryy wrote:

can you guys help me with my gear. i sometimes get oneshotted and i have no clue why. my life is kinda low i guess but im working on that. anything else you can notice.

my gear:

jewels:

are the jewels i got so far.

or am i doing something terribly wrong?

Nothing man. It's just the quirky one-shot mechanics of this game. This build, like the vast majority of other builds/classes is sadly susceptible to it. You just need to learn the mechanics of the boss fight before you go in to it and you will be much better prepared (youtube). I usually stand outside of an Arena or boss fight and load up a video that shows me what to expect or what to look out for/avoid. But I'm pretty sure everyone gets one-shot just as much as you. I know my friend who has been playing POE since the start simply doesn't even boss-fight on some of his builds because of it- he just focuses on clearing the entire map and leveling/item farming that way. Once you're over 100 atlas completion you don't really need to worry about finishing maps as much (and those are the tier's that will one-shot you more often than not ((t15-16)).

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kira1414 wrote:

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GodofRabbits wrote:

I'm running an effective 5L with Cyclone - Faster Attacks - Fortify - Inc AoE - Elemental Damage With Attack Skills. Certainly I could have swapped for Conc Effect and another damage support were I to want more damage. Regardless, a 6L only beats this setup by one link, so it's not as large a boost as you imply.

Lets do the numbers using your character profile with POB :)

Cyclone on Level 18 Faster Attack Gloves + Kaom's Heart:

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Cyclone + Elemental Damage with Attack + Concentrated + Fortify

Your effective Shaper DPS: 135365

If you switch to Cyclone on 6L Belly:

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Cyclone + Elemental Damage with Attack + Concentrated + Fortify + Melee Physical + Elemental Focus

Your effective Shaper DPS: 232185

6L Belly has approximately 42% more damage.

Here is the pastebin (using your character profile) I used to simulate the above damage comparison:

https://pastebin.com/m6UCx4Z0

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You can choose "Cyclone on 4L Elder Gloves" and "Cyclone on 6L Belly" from the Main Skill dropdown menu.

I have removed the Level 18 Faster Attack property from the gloves and add it as a gem in the skill slot for more accurate comparison.

You have to change the chest piece under Item tab to Belly when you switch to "Cyclone on 6L Belly".

Note: Elder's gloves is just a level 18 faster attack gem with 0% quality.

The faster attacks mod is always accompanied by a '+%AS' mod, so it's effectively a quality gem. You get additional % fire from Kaom's Heart. Also, why worry about scaling cyclone damage when you can instead rely on Molten Burst for single-target? I get that you are technically correct that you get more Cyclone damage on a 6L with better damage supports, but effectively you are trading away defenses for overkill damage on your trash clear skill. I also feel that stacking attack speed is better than damage because you should be aiming to proc Molten Burst as often as possible - as close to the theoretical 8x per second as you can get.

Do I continue saving for Shroud or change my build to use Bronn. Will I be able to do Shaper etc with Shroud?

I'm loving the cremation build, but if I need to switch to Bronn and pure Cyclone for dps to kill shaper I guess I will.

Just wondering which route I should take before I invest any more currency.

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Norwind wrote:

I feel like Im starting to fall off a bit in terms of damage. The ammys are too expensive for me to afford. I was thinking of getting an essence worm to run anger but do you think Ill lose out too much on other stats? What would be the next step in upgrading?

Well you shouldn't beat yourself up about the damage when some of you gems are only lvl 10 with no quality. Get those gems leveled and then 20% quality them and your damage will be fine. If i was you i would get rid of Hatchet Master points and the 2 at Jugernaut and work yourself towards Primeval Force and with 2 more levels you will be there.

2 flasks are useless really. Only need 1 life potion, and sure dont need 2 quicksilver. Get yourself a basalt or lion's roar.

Thank you so much for this guide, I've read nearly every post in here and the support you give people is greatly appreciate. That said, I feel like it's time I ask for some help.

I feel like my damage is a little lacking in higher red maps, is there anything I could be doing better? I also absolutely hate casting enduring cry/golem, can I swap out better gems for those two? I've already made the swap to 4 link AC instead of CWDT/IC.

I'm thinking in terms up grades my path looks something like, Spiked Gloves > Dying Sun > Taste of Hate > Abyss Jewels, does this seem right?

I also wanted to ask if I'm running the best gem set up in my weapon/chest.

Thanks for any advice you can give.