[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

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essencevox wrote:

Why don't we use ancestral call for more molten strike balls?

Molten Strike is a single target skill with AOE counter part (balls).

Molten Burst is the counter part and Ancestral Call does not work on it. Another reason it won't work is because Molten Burst is a triggered skill and not a self cast skill.

How will the slayer and leech nerf affects the build?

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kira1414 wrote:

Hatred consumes 50% mana reserve and the overkill damage from Herald of Ash helps to clear map faster so the choice is pretty simple over there.

Isn't the aoe aspect of HoA a burn which we can't apply due to having ele focus? Correct me if I'm wrong. Always been a little confused about HoA aoe

I haven't reach to end game with this build. however i have a question.

For the ascendacy point, why is Brutality Fervor > Impact nodes. The aoe increased node on Impact does improve the cyclone aoe right? a total of 30% increased to the nodes.

the 100% increase leech is a big different maker on a big boss fight?

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kira1414 wrote:

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essencevox wrote:

Why don't we use ancestral call for more molten strike balls?

Molten Strike is a single target skill with AOE counter part (balls).

Molten Burst is the counter part and Ancestral Call does not work on it. Another reason it won't work is because Molten Burst is a triggered skill and not a self cast skill.

have you by any chance seen molten strikers as main clear skill? you use molten strike with AC to target the ground before target and you create much more balls. https://youtu.be/oQeJoVHaqxY?t=2m49s just as Mathil explained for example that it might be a bug but it works for now.

Can volley support gem be used to support Molten Burst ? If yes has anyone tried and is it useful ?

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kira1414 wrote:

POB requires an update but tweaking the numbers, Xoph's Blood + Watcher's Eye provides the most damage against Shaper but Impresence + Watcher's Eye is a great alternative.

And honestly, I don't know why GGG created so many power creep items in this 3.1 league cos the end game bosses were already killable. These new items will just make them trivial...

Yea this was more along the lines to find an affordable alternative to using Xoph. Which Impresence + Watcher was til the Jewel sky rocketed(can probably snag one for 200c though) and as I said still does more or about the same damage as Xoph, of course this is just Xoph alone wasnt factoring in using watchers + Xoph as that is an expensive combo already and not what the evaluation was about.

Enthusiast build will definitely be something like Xoph + Watchers + Anger + elemental weakness Tombgloves.

Hello guys,

I looking for things which i have to/can change in my char.

When i will have enough currency i plan to change, chest: shroud/bronn/belly, impressence amu(flammability prefix) or xoph blood, but i think, impressence is more probably option.
What about my rares? Which i can upgrade?

I also changed gems setup, let me know what you think about him.


Thanks

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duabijitelur wrote:

How will the slayer and leech nerf affects the build?

The build was not affected by the nerf to Slayer. :)

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mwmorais wrote:

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kira1414 wrote:

Hatred consumes 50% mana reserve and the overkill damage from Herald of Ash helps to clear map faster so the choice is pretty simple over there.

Isn't the aoe aspect of HoA a burn which we can't apply due to having ele focus? Correct me if I'm wrong. Always been a little confused about HoA aoe

Yes. You are correct that if you go Elemental Focus, the burning ailment of Herald of Ash is lost but the damage provided by it against Shaper is still higher than Hatred.

Hatred is slightly higher than Herald of Ash on regular mobs, but at the expense of higher mana reserve too, which makes it not worth it to drop Herald of Ash for Hatred.

Personally, I prefer to run ignite on the axe and Elemental Focus on Cylone. This way I get to benefit from the burning damage too.

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xslasherz wrote:

I haven't reach to end game with this build. however i have a question.

For the ascendacy point, why is Brutality Fervor > Impact nodes. The aoe increased node on Impact does improve the cyclone aoe right? a total of 30% increased to the nodes.

the 100% increase leech is a big different maker on a big boss fight?

You get immunity to bleed + stun with Brutality Fervour. This makes Slayer a very good class to farm Uber lab. The stun immunity is also great against end game bosses.

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JrFryta wrote:

have you by any chance seen molten strikers as main clear skill? you use molten strike with AC to target the ground before target and you create much more balls. https://youtu.be/oQeJoVHaqxY?t=2m49s just as Mathil explained for example that it might be a bug but it works for now.

Molten Strike is listed as an alternate setup in post #2 of the guide. :)

However, between Molten Strike and Cyclone, I personally prefer Cyclone because of the mobility. It also makes evading boss attacks a lot easier.

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mirage2k640 wrote:

Can volley support gem be used to support Molten Burst ? If yes has anyone tried and is it useful ?

Volley support gem does not work with Molten Burst.

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Hitoseijuro wrote:

Yea this was more along the lines to find an affordable alternative to using Xoph. Which Impresence + Watcher was til the Jewel sky rocketed(can probably snag one for 200c though) and as I said still does more or about the same damage as Xoph, of course this is just Xoph alone wasnt factoring in using watchers + Xoph as that is an expensive combo already and not what the evaluation was about.

Enthusiast build will definitely be something like Xoph + Watchers + Anger + elemental weakness Tombgloves.

Ah I see where you are coming from. And yah, the price of Watcher has make the alternate setup of Impresence + Watcher to be not as price competitive but just going Impresence alone is still huge.

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kakarotto94 wrote:

Hello guys,

I looking for things which i have to/can change in my char.

When i will have enough currency i plan to change, chest: shroud/bronn/belly, impressence amu(flammability prefix) or xoph blood, but i think, impressence is more probably option.
What about my rares? Which i can upgrade?

I also changed gems setup, let me know what you think about him.


Thanks

Looking at your flask, you do not have anti-freeze so you will definitely want to get that on your Quick Silver flask.

And yes, definitely consider getting Impresence as your next upgrade as it is a great alternative compared to Xoph's Blood.

Consider picking up Purity of Flesh (near Avatar of Fire) as for 2 skill points, you gain 12% life.

thanks for reply @kira1414
I bought Impresence Onyx Amulet I also changed setup gems - any suggestion for optimization?
What about the rest of my gear, who items needs replace? What about jewels?
Which lvl CWDT will be the best for this config?