[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

cast on melee kill im guessing

Starting the league with this build. Would it be easier to use sunder until lvl 50+ or is it worth switching right at lvl 28?

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raynor36 wrote:

Starting the league with this build. Would it be easier to use sunder until lvl 50+ or is it worth switching right at lvl 28?

Use sunder till blood aqueducts, and then farm to 70 in that zone. After you could swap to cyclone, but i would stay sunder to after kativa, and first swap at maps.

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kira1414 wrote:

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Seriouscatt wrote:

Yeah I meant Brutal, not endless. Do you still level this build with EQ when you unlock it or do you stick to dual wielding sunder and respect once you feel the need?

Also does reflect changes mean sibyl isnt super useful if you dont plan on running ele reflect maps?

You can simply level using 2H axe with Sunder as the skill tree works really well with 2H Sunder. This way you do not have to re-spec.

And yes. With the reflect changes, I don't think Sibyl a requirement to handle reflect any more. I have a feeling you can do reflect map mod with ease once patch 3.1 hits.


No, the mod on maps is unchanged so don't run it! What they changed is the reflect mod on rare monsters. It's now a dodgeable thing like volatile. So as long as you don't run ele reflect maps, you should never get into trouble with reflect.

It's a huge buff for this build as it removes the biggest onseshot potential which had no counterplay. This also means u dont have to run any reduced reflect, because they will not affect the damage of the new nemesis reflect mod. So you can remove sybils and pantheon and can use those slots for other things.

The new vaal pact is also probably a huge buff for this build. You only have to spend 3 nodes to get it ( you can go up from Vitality void, taking the extra life leech node on that wheel which is still a nice thing to have. After that just one dex node and then Vaal pact, doubling your life leech/ second and your maximum life leech rate).

I plugged in two of your characters (currently looking at Gladiolus) into PoB and I can't get the actual DPS to read higher than 300k. How do you get over 450k dps in that screenshot? I have "killed recently" and "leeching" enabled...I don't know what I'm missing.

Any help? Thanks!

What about switching Headsman for Impact in 3.0? Do we rly need more dmg if we killed recently? Especially in boss fights.

+ we get 30% more aoe instead of 15% if we killed recenly
- we lost 5% attack speed and 20% dmg mostly for white/blue/rare mobs

And does single-attacks splash melee bonus counts for our totem?

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Cozzi18999 wrote:

Volatile Dead triggering with cyclone can be seen in this video at the start, not sure what setup its using to cast em, but looks sweet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrksFvVWOM0

No sense at all:
1. to slow orbs movement speed
2. while projecticles moves, i can clear 3-4 packs

So, what a sense of these orbs, if you can clear half of map(exaggerating) while it moving?
Actually, this build have great movement skill, so there is no sense to wait for this orbs.

P.S. this is my opinion only

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ArasysSysara wrote:

No, the mod on maps is unchanged so don't run it! What they changed is the reflect mod on rare monsters. It's now a dodgeable thing like volatile. So as long as you don't run ele reflect maps, you should never get into trouble with reflect.

It's a huge buff for this build as it removes the biggest onseshot potential which had no counterplay. This also means u dont have to run any reduced reflect, because they will not affect the damage of the new nemesis reflect mod. So you can remove sybils and pantheon and can use those slots for other things.

The new vaal pact is also probably a huge buff for this build. You only have to spend 3 nodes to get it ( you can go up from Vitality void, taking the extra life leech node on that wheel which is still a nice thing to have. After that just one dex node and then Vaal pact, doubling your life leech/ second and your maximum life leech rate).

Thank you for clarifying the reflect map mod. Would imagine the horror the first time I run one in 3.1. :)

Yep. Single reflect mob will no longer be a threat with the reflect changes. Making room for a better ring than Sibyl during mapping.

Yes. Nerf to Brutal Fervour + nerf to Vaal Pact = Buff to Slayer. 2 negatives lead to 1 positive.

Do we really need Vaal Pact? We shall see but on paper now, it is going to be a huge source of healing.

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Kurnis wrote:

I plugged in two of your characters (currently looking at Gladiolus) into PoB and I can't get the actual DPS to read higher than 300k. How do you get over 450k dps in that screenshot? I have "killed recently" and "leeching" enabled...I don't know what I'm missing.

Any help? Thanks!

Gladiolus was created in patch 2.6 and his skill tree was reset when 3.0 hits. His current profile has incomplete skill book quests. If you hover your mouse over the skill points in POB, you will see that it shows level 89 instead of 99.

You can use this paste bin that I saved back then in 2.6.

NOTE:
- The damage shown in that paste bin is mapping dps and not Shaper dps (you can toggle that in configuration screen).

- The pastebin is showing my mapping setup and is using Red Dream and Sibyl ring. Replacing those 2 with rare jewel and rare ring is the actual damage for Shaper / Uber Atziri fight.

- The screenshot you saw is provided by another player. My gears are different from him so the pastebin will produce a different result as compared to the screenshot.

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omgree wrote:

What about switching Headsman for Impact in 3.0? Do we rly need more dmg if we killed recently? Especially in boss fights.

+ we get 30% more aoe instead of 15% if we killed recenly
- we lost 5% attack speed and 20% dmg mostly for white/blue/rare mobs

And does single-attacks splash melee bonus counts for our totem?

Impact is meant for single target skill gems (gems without AOE tag). Cyclone is AOE so you won't benefit from it.

On totem, Impact will work for Ancestral Protector (Single target) but not Ancestral Warchief (AOE).

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RawDamage wrote:

No sense at all:
1. to slow orbs movement speed
2. while projecticles moves, i can clear 3-4 packs

So, what a sense of these orbs, if you can clear half of map(exaggerating) while it moving?
Actually, this build have great movement skill, so there is no sense to wait for this orbs.

P.S. this is my opinion only

I would definitely give it a shot for the fun of it. The orbs have auto-targeting so they will still be useful in clearing other areas of the map that you have not went.

And imagine Vaal Breach in boss room. Assuming it will work, Volatile Dead will look glamorous in there.

hey i saw the build still is in the build list so i think it will be viable for the 3.1 , have just a question i don't uderstand how the player leech the mana nothing on the stuff or in passives make mana leech or i missed something?

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jekyll2414 wrote:

hey i saw the build still is in the build list so i think it will be viable for the 3.1 , have just a question i don't uderstand how the player leech the mana nothing on the stuff or in passives make mana leech or i missed something?

You can find the mana leech node right next to Vitality Void. :)

I have looked at the new 3.1 skill tree and there will be no changes to the build. If players feel that there is a lack in leeching due to Brutal Fervour nerf, they can pick up Vaal Pact which is just 1 or 2 skill nodes away.

The build title has been updated to reflect the above.