[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

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kira1414 wrote:

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Dragon_Bukid wrote:

I have a question and some thoughts on carcass jack synergy... Since Slayer already has some form of aoe increase plus the 20% from carcass, would it not gimp point blank linked to the molten burst? that would result in lower overall molten burst damage since the projectiles travel further even with conc. effect won't it? Just asking about the mechanics and the possible lack of synergy.

The molten balls don't travel far out with Concentrated gem and the extra AOE with Increased Area of Effect is really good for regular mapping.

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Dragon_Bukid wrote:

Thanks for the answer, although I did find a mathematical calculation saying that carcass jack does indeed lower the dps for molten burst right here:

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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1793110

It lowers point blank damage output by about 2% but these calculations are on a raider with no aoe ascendancy, slayer has a 15% increased aoe after a recent kill, so the damage difference may actually be slightly higher than 2% for slayer. Anyway, I've dropped carcass jack for belly since volatiles can be dangerous at less than 6.5k health.

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FeFFoM wrote:

Do you think this build can stand hc?

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kira1414 wrote:

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Dragon_Bukid wrote:

Thanks for the answer, although I did find a mathematical calculation saying that carcass jack does indeed lower the dps for molten burst right here:

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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1793110

It lowers point blank damage output by about 2% but these calculations are on a raider with no aoe ascendancy, slayer has a 15% increased aoe after a recent kill, so the damage difference may actually be slightly higher than 2% for slayer. Anyway, I've dropped carcass jack for belly since volatiles can be dangerous at less than 6.5k health.

Thanks for the thread. Very nice read. :)

I see that the post was a little dated (25th Dec 2016) so it does not include the recent AOE changes in patch 2.6. It also does not include the calculation of Concentrated gem which is a less modifier. I would love to see a calculation that includes the above info. It will provide a better comparison.

Personally, I like the AOE increase because volatile never was a threat to me (probably because of the distance mob explode tend to be further away from my character). Also helps greatly in map clearing since it is not lacking in damage.

Comparing to Belly, I am more inclined towards Cospri's Will for that +1 curse. Running Flammability + Temporal Chain (extend ignite duration too) is a great boost to survival.

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FeFFoM wrote:

Do you think this build can stand hc?

I don't play HC so I am not able to provide good advice when it comes to this build. Will definitely appreciate any HC players insight on running this build in HC. :)

But in terms of gears, I would recommend Belly of The Beast, Daresso's Defiance for HC play as it provides more toughness. I would also recommend the tank skill tree as it provide more survivability.

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Dragon_Bukid wrote:

yeah cospri's might be necessary for some mobs and map mods, although would we also have to drop HoA for it? all three would reserve 95% of the mana unfortunately.

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ultra_super_hyper wrote:

Any alternatives to xoph's blood? As I'm kind of a bad player I don't think I can really farm the breaches effectively (get swarmed in no time xD)
Got a ngamahu as a drop so I thought I'd try it. Solid build though.