[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

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DGTLDaemon wrote:

@DamageIncorporated: OK, thanks for the detailed explanation, mate :) Now give me a quick reality check, will you? I quickly threw together a build based on one of the PoB links in the OP: lvl 90, Avatar of Fire tree (without Xoph's Blood), 5-link chest for Cyclone - basically, what you could expect after a couple of weeks of grinding during an event/new league, without expensive end-game items. And I'm really not liking what I'm seeing: 5.5k life, only 150k cyclone DPS - looks like I'll be lucky to get through T15 maps with it, and I can forget about guardians/Shaper/Uber Atziri. Did I do anything wrong here, or is it what this build really looks like on a budget?

https://pastebin.com/nJ0c3PqW

You have Sibyl's on that PoB link, low life opal ring with no offensive mods, carnage heart amulet, gloves/boots/belt are not the highest life as well, only 181% HP on tree, using only a 5 link...

IMO it's way better to go for a Rare chest as your first 6L if you can't afford Bronn's/Belly or don't want it, you'll get more damage and more tankiness than a 5L Bronn's, might be even cheaper while giving you more hp, more damage and more resists. I still use rare and don't plan on replacing it as the dmg is enough for all content and hp/def is great as well.

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Phosphenez wrote:

You have Sibyl's on that PoB link, low life opal ring with no offensive mods, carnage heart amulet, gloves/boots/belt are not the highest life as well, only 181% HP on tree, using only a 5 link...

IMO it's way better to go for a Rare chest as your first 6L if you can't afford Bronn's/Belly or don't want it, you'll get more damage and more tankiness than a 5L Bronn's, might be even cheaper while giving you more hp, more damage and more resists. I still use rare and don't plan on replacing it as the dmg is enough for all content and hp/def is great as well.

Got it, thanks :) I'm considering running this build either in one of the upcoming events or as a league starter for the next league coming in December, so 6-linked uniques are a no-go, the whole build must fit within a budget of about 100c. Using a (relatively) inepxensive 6-linked rare chest looks like a great idea :) And yeah, I know that if I want an endgame-viable build on a sub-100c budget, I should be looking at one of those crazy Dark Pact totem builds instead. But they are literally asking for a nerf bat, so I'd rather stay away from them. Plus, I really like the Ngamahu Cyclone playstyle :) In this league, I leveled an RF Jug using Cyclone to trigger various auxiliary effects (EO/EE/Flammability/Fortify) and Leap Slam as my movement skill, and judging by the videos on the first page, this build is very similar in playstyle.

The Retch belt any good for this build? Should be godly yeah?

what do I need to upgrade?

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tMShubar wrote:

The Retch belt any good for this build? Should be godly yeah?

We don't do any non fire damage. So it won't be worth it.

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IceMax1 wrote:

what do I need to upgrade?

Get your Ngamahu's 6 sockets and add in all the support gems for molten burst. That's your main source of damage ...
And use some Whetstones on it.
o_o

Just completed 40/40 with it. Would recommend.

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IceMax1 wrote:

what do I need to upgrade?

I'm sorry but is this a serious question? You need to get better everything. Your gloves are junk, ring is junk, Ngma's FLame has 4 sockets and no quality, belt is bad... : /, sorry but really?

hi guys!! just trying this build right now and level 89 i cannot sustain the mana cost... what did i miss?

OK, here's my second attempt at theorycrafting a cheap-ass version of this build, based on the original guide and some suggestions kindly provided above:

https://pastebin.com/GF8aJVgW

As per Phosphenez's suggestion, I went with a rare 6-link chest instead of 5-link Bronn's/Belly. I also added some basic rare gear with mods recommended in the original guide (life rolls everywhere, attack speed on gloves, elemental damage with attacks on belts and rings). I chose steel rings instead of opal rings because the latter are very expensive. I also rearranged some nodes on the skill tree in favor of flat life nodes vs. jewel slots (as I don't want to rely on expensive jewels with life + several dmg mods), and kept a couple of basic jewels with life + fire dmg. And I'm using Devoto's and Carnage Heart for lack of better options.

What I ended up with is 5.9k life, 186k cyclone dps with conc effect and ancestral warchief for boss fights or 133k with inc aoe and bonuses from carnage and recent kills for mapping, and 20k dmg per molten burst at target level 90. Life looks OKish, cyclone dps is kinda low, and I'm not sure whether 20k molten burst is good or bad, as apparently there's no way to properly calculate molten burst dps in PoB. Any suggestions as to how I can further optimize this build and squeeze some extra life/dps from it while keeping my budget to a minimum?

(Never mind the lack of resist/str/dex/int rolls on gear - I'm just too lazy to add those, right now I just wanna look at raw life/dps numbers).