[2.4] Blast Rain (Pure Fire Max AoE)

ok,

first of all, too much toxicerino here. i can't see why you compare signalshot pve build with this pvp build.

sorry guys but blast rain can stand no chance against barrage in pvp too, after first explosion barrage would teleport next to the target and deal zillion dps. whatever block you have, since barrage can afford 10 arrows, it is much easier with 10 attacks per right click tobreach block than any other skill in the game.

it is not true that its hard to aim with barrage, you just gotta find your opponents name in screen, dont move your mouse and keep right clicking-> thats called namelocking. computer perfectly aims when you namelock target, and follows wherever it goes. barrage is all about namelocking, once you namelock target you know that he is dead. with a very huge monitor screen and in big maps barrage gets even better.

also my barrage dps scaling idea was just be able to deal with talismans. and it turns out that it gives the best damage too! it works great vs any conversion talismans, since "signalfire" dps setup offers 2 different damage types with 50+ penetration. (64 fire + 49 light) whatever talisman your opponent uses, it wont help him much.

blast rain is cool and aoe, but comparing the dps values, barrage is significantly stronger. i have 120k dps in town, no auras, 10 arrows, point blank. that is simply 1.8M Dps. this is pve spec, 7.8k health with leg kaoms. i have 193k with blood rage + auras on.

i tried blast rain in pvp too, unfortunately the delay of blast rain ruins everything.
very fast targets can get away from aoe overlapping area very quickly and you end up doing only 1 initial hit per attack.
barrage is easy to outmicro but so is blast rain. if somebody gets vry close, they deal damage first, due to delay of blast rain.
besides, you can't kill heavily invested zerphi + mom builds while there is no such problem with barrage. once you CAN namelock it, it is dead.

IN a fair / ideal pvp world, CI archer would be really good. but considering the current so called "meta" of pvp, that mom + zerphi is overwhelmingly strong compared to other specs, CI shines just as an pve idea.

i think for 3v3 blast rain is way betterthan any other bow skills, since highest aoe and using a skill which is easier to micro is the king in 3v3 or 3v3 ctf.
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Last edited by Rupenus#5905 on Oct 21, 2016, 8:43:01 PM
I apologize for the toxicity. I removed the comparisons with signalshot.
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Last edited by Castablanca#7670 on Oct 21, 2016, 11:55:20 PM
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vs barrage you can just make circles around your opponent and no arrow can land on you. while your character is bursting arrows you cant move, so that makes you most of the time statinonary, aoe hit and run with a fast character(EA pathfinder) can totally outmicro you. barrage works vs spellcasters and melee and it is good vs bow builds but vs offscreen spells or BV(which is the most viable pvp skill at the moment) it is not the best answer a bow user is looking for. all T1 builds can wreck barrage without even losing a round. lapiz did good before with barrage, but EA players werent having 180 MS, 10 seconds of curse immunity(any flask), dying sun, or rearguard + rumi.
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Last edited by Castablanca#7670 on Oct 22, 2016, 12:21:25 AM
yeah both blast rain and barrage are easy to get outmicro'ed.
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That sucks... Hope he's just going through some shit or something and fucking with you (happens). Even if I borrowed something from you-know-who before he went full blown psycho, I would've still given it back.
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Lol that definitely sounds like hide. Or Rup is drunk as fuhhhh and bathing in drama. Although I don't think Rup would be so silly to think that you losing a quiver would infuriate you. It's not like it was your only one lol. However, I do know at least one other person on here (that I won't out) that allegedly got the same treatment you did - loaning ex and never seeing it again.

It sucks that shit like this happens because/when the meta is as unhealthy as it currently is.
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Last edited by Ahfack#1969 on Oct 22, 2016, 12:02:49 PM
You're right, Ahfack. I'm not as much angry about the quiver, as much as saddened by the loss of a friend. [Removed by Support] died to me. And, I don't understand why? I never aggro'ed him. I even reduced the very minimal "toxicerino" in my 2.4 blast rain guide. If it's concerning hide, all I did was 100% ignore him, even when he was alt-account taunting me.
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Last edited by Brian_GGG#0000 on Oct 22, 2016, 3:47:53 PM
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Rupenus wrote:
ok,

first of all, too much toxicerino here. i can't see why you compare signalshot pve build with this pvp build.

sorry guys but blast rain can stand no chance against barrage in pvp too, after first explosion barrage would teleport next to the target and deal zillion dps. whatever block you have, since barrage can afford 10 arrows, it is much easier with 10 attacks per right click tobreach block than any other skill in the game.

it is not true that its hard to aim with barrage, you just gotta find your opponents name in screen, dont move your mouse and keep right clicking-> thats called namelocking. computer perfectly aims when you namelock target, and follows wherever it goes. barrage is all about namelocking, once you namelock target you know that he is dead. with a very huge monitor screen and in big maps barrage gets even better.

also my barrage dps scaling idea was just be able to deal with talismans. and it turns out that it gives the best damage too! it works great vs any conversion talismans, since "signalfire" dps setup offers 2 different damage types with 50+ penetration. (64 fire + 49 light) whatever talisman your opponent uses, it wont help him much.

blast rain is cool and aoe, but comparing the dps values, barrage is significantly stronger. i have 120k dps in town, no auras, 10 arrows, point blank. that is simply 1.8M Dps. this is pve spec, 7.8k health with leg kaoms. i have 193k with blood rage + auras on.

i tried blast rain in pvp too, unfortunately the delay of blast rain ruins everything.
very fast targets can get away from aoe overlapping area very quickly and you end up doing only 1 initial hit per attack.
barrage is easy to outmicro but so is blast rain. if somebody gets vry close, they deal damage first, due to delay of blast rain.
besides, you can't kill heavily invested zerphi + mom builds while there is no such problem with barrage. once you CAN namelock it, it is dead.

IN a fair / ideal pvp world, CI archer would be really good. but considering the current so called "meta" of pvp, that mom + zerphi is overwhelmingly strong compared to other specs, CI shines just as an pve idea.

i think for 3v3 blast rain is way betterthan any other bow skills, since highest aoe and using a skill which is easier to micro is the king in 3v3 or 3v3 ctf.


The toxic issue that ur talking about is pure hypocrisy. Ur Build guide that u made with BlastingCap about signalshot build is just cancer for Path of Exile, not that the build is weak or retarded. The build guide is just so missleading for 90% of poe player, telling ppl that it can be done on a budget or on league is just a big BS statement, ive seen more then enough ppl failing to make the build viable cuz u need to invest so much, its not league or budget viable at all. All that build guide could have being so much better w/o all those false claims that Blasting made about it, u can't just lie because u want attention on ur build its toxic for poe, player will quit because they invested there EX into that build, but they are left with a build who can't work unless u invest mass EX into it, we all know most player don't even have 100ex+.

On the barrage vs blastrain part u can't just make those claim, we both know that barrage has no range n only work if ur target is not moving, but even Amazon said that barrage has more dps, i don't see why ur making all that drama about that. Blastrain has is a AOE skill, ofc its gonna be better for PVP cuz u will miss alot less ur target, but i don't think that i need to explain alot more we all know AOE vs single target difference in pvp.

And if this is how u respond when someone criticize ur build by stealing there shit n so, im just like O_O out of word we don't need ppl like that.
A day w/o dealing with stupid ppl is like....Never mind. Ill tell u if it ever happens
Last edited by philophil#2404 on Oct 22, 2016, 12:44:27 PM
Ok im just fucking done with it, when ppl defend something that is obviously wrong i just can't stand all that BS. Never tought that ppl would be so upset when someone point out something obvious like that build guide/pvp post did.
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Guys, it's okay. I don't care about the +1 Signal Fire being vendored, although it would be nice to have it back (good rolls to at 32% added fire). What bothers me is that I lost a dear friend. I am still shocked (vinktar shocked without pathfinder) at how upset [Removed by Support] is at me. What the hell is going on? I thought we were supposed to encourage build diversity, not shit on variety. I straight up apologized to [Removed by Support] initial comment. I deleted all toxicerino from the guide.

Anyway, [Removed by Support] was my friend. He taught me so much about PVP. I just don't get it. This doesn't even sound like him. I'm so sad and shocked, straight up neurogenic shock. Last night when I saw his message to me, my systolic pressure tanked to the 90's. I became dizzy, straight up started to see stars. [Removed by Support], you straight up vasovagal'ed me =____=

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