Theory Craft.

Bored, Wanting to brain some wacky builds, ofc if you don't like "broken stuff" / super salty, this thread is not for you.

You've been warned.

Concept 1

Was in Sarn yesterday, Saw something out standing, It's Damage bypassed my Zerphi + Flasks.

Decay + Bv Poison.

Perhaps Mara Leech & Retch?

Principle, Decay = 1000 damage per Bv hit, stack that with Chaos / Dot damage & poison.

He ran past/ Brushed me for less than 0.3 seconds, if I hadn't triggered full defensive manoeuvre, instant death = guaranteed, If I trigger zerphi + all flask, additional / more than stacks (3-7+) would out paste my healing.

Self 68 chaos res.

Provided, the Guy was a level 90, not a known name/ pvp player that, I or others have heard of.

Additional info, he used jacks, and is possibility glass, but ran almost as fast as HideC, requires 2 Ea volley to die.

Calling Markus as witness.

I believe, if this is further improved with TLC, HideC's sarn arena clear speed will be... dethroned?

(Can't find source) - Player "Ziroge"







Concept 2
Hierophant MoM

MoM 30+10

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(8+6)x2 = x + 6 = 34

Option 1
Ralleying Cry threshold 10% Mgain

34+ 10 = 44% Mgain

Option 2
6% shield
etc etc

34+6 = 40% Mgain Vs 40MoM

or Option 3


30+10+5 = 45MoM

Target idea, MoM + Mgain = True Mit.

+ Kaom,

Orr
Essence helm.
Essence of Horror - Helmet: Socketed Gems deal 30% more Elemental Damage
Essence of Insanity- Helmet: Socketed Gems gain 50% of Physical Damage as extra Lightning Damage

4L, + Hierophant = 20% Pen + Essences = pseudo 6L? or Rather 5.5L?

Math wise, 20+38+10+10(Trap) = 78% w/o Vinktar / 5% pen belt?

MoM expand- If 1000 hp, + 30% mom = 1300 hp, if 1000hp + 45% Mom = 1450hp + easy flask / inherent Tankiness.

(https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1706498) - Markus
(https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1704588) - Lapriz







Concept 3
& MoM + Mgain 34%

Reckless Defense jewels,
Cobalt Jewel
20% of Block Chance applied to Spells
(2-4)% additional Block Chance
(7-10)% additional Chance to receive a Critical Strike

+ Avengers Flask's = Flask City.

mostly stack Dodge, perhaps Hine 6% + Atrizi step & Dark Vectors?

(No source thread) - Qbot








Additional Notes.
Oh also, +1+2 CA + Decay Stacks on Bow, (PP dot 30% / SS Decay).

Often over looked mechanic "Avoid"
Aquamarine Flask + Path is almost additional 38% to Avoid Winter / Cold damages. Do I need to mention talisman conversion 100% + Avoid mech? Aka additional Avoid chance, that's NOT reduce able by BCR? & offers layered defense with block / Dodge?

+ Mara Auxium?


Please note, if other players had explicitly told you NOT to share, their build secrets, do not post it without their consent etc etc.

Reserved

Long story short: decay essence mod is the new prenerf RF

Better go CI

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lapiz wrote:

Long story short: decay essence mod is the new prenerf RF

Better go CI

My CI items sucks :<

I mean, In all due respect, Atleast, Mulla got his wish.



Also, Already used up all my decay essences, My Rng Sucks.

from all these mumbo jumbo, i realized even further that playing pvp in poe is like living under the toilet of pve. we are like an insect inside of the water hole trying to survive. whatever broken shit comes out from pve's ass we have to eat it and try to live with it. they flush the toilet time to time, when pvpers can't even breah anymore(inquisitor and spark changes) that's all.

i'm kinda bored of eating shit to be honest.

things are getting out of control very very fast.

nice b/o's btw.

remember the times of what was called as OP,

i remember when i one shotted Ahfack at the time i swapped my chest to Lioneyes. (30-40% more damage at that time) that was the first one shot i have ever seen to leg kaoms players.
We were shocked, completely silent for a while. then ahfack laughed hard at what happened.

firestorm was OP, when you get caught you were dying in 3-4 shots from 8-9k life pool.
you can search your memories and generate more experiences you had from what was OP. you know what im talking about, OP stuff were kind of... kind of managable. they were requiring some kind of "gameplay"to make them work.


now,

1 link some enchantment one shots, (200% damage investment is enough)
some guy who maxed out his movespeed with HoT one shots,
Fireball one shots,
barrage one shots, (fireball and barrage requires some aiming, lol)
BV one shots from whatever HP,
now new stuff are coming, decay affix one shots... also new channeling stuff without T value are coming...

1: Did you try remove poison flask? Also CI is still immune, so rekt life based builds. I wonder how glass-cannon was that guy, because if that's close to max damage then it's managable, with Zerphi measures : )

2: It works, but keep in mind you will need large mana pool against oneshots.

3: scaling block with that chest is wasted, dodge is good. Pathfinders already have "flask-town", and you would still get countered by big hits, Bear, FB, EQ, Mines, etc.

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MoM expand- If 1000 hp, + 30% mom = 1300 hp, if 1000hp + 45% Mom = 1450hp + easy flask / inherent Tankiness.

I've just realised that I've also fucked up the calculations in my thread, why is everybody so dumb here to notice it >.<

So, the MoM+mana gain effect is not more maximum life, but less damage taken, which is much stronger, theoretically speaking, if you:

Get 50% MoM+mana gain, you mitigate half of the damage taken, meaning double your maximum life as effective HP.

Get 90% MoM+mana gain, you mitigate 90% of the damage taken, meaning 10 times your maximum life as effective HP.

So it gets more and more effective as you stack more of it, as long as your maximum mana doesn't limit it.

Effective HP of 10000 Life pool, with 30% MoM + mana gain: 10000 / (100% - 30%) = 10000 / 0.7 = 14285 EHP, but it needs 4285 max mana against hits near maximum EHP.

Effective HP of 10000 Life pool, with 45% MoM + mana gain: 10000 / (100% - 45%) = 10000 / 0.55 = 18182 EHP, but it needs 8182 max mana against hits near maximum EHP.

Effective HP of 10000 Life pool, with 60% MoM + mana gain: 10000 / (100% - 60%) = 10000 / 0.4 = 25000 EHP, but it needs 15000 max mana against hits near maximum EHP.

I will fix my thread when I have time.

You guys think a random decay with BV is bad, that's cute. Now what if I tell you that you can scale Decay damages with support gems using Essence Drain and Vortex (because of the spell dmg to dot modifier on those skills) ?

Try to survive this stuff, so far not a single life build managed to survive my build in Essence.
Ho and it last 8 sec (with rapid decay) and you can't dispell it with poison flasks.

More seriously a "normal" decay is manageable as a life build with capped chaos res, it just last for eternity. The problem I see is that everyone can slap this mod on a random weapon and add it to his damages for free.

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IceDeal wrote:

You guys think a random decay with BV is bad, that's cute. Now what if I tell you that you can scale Decay damages with support gems using Essence Drain and Vortex (because of the spell dmg to dot modifier on those skills) ?

Try to survive this stuff, so far not a single life build managed to survive my build in Essence.
Ho and it last 8 sec (with rapid decay) and you can't dispell it with poison flasks.

More seriously a "normal" decay is manageable as a life build with capped chaos res, it just last for eternity.

this

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IceDeal wrote:

You guys think a random decay with BV is bad, that's cute. Now what if I tell you that you can scale Decay damages with support gems using Essence Drain and Vortex (because of the spell dmg to dot modifier on those skills) ?

Try to survive this stuff, so far not a single life build managed to survive my build in Essence.
Ho and it last 8 sec (with rapid decay) and you can't dispell it with poison flasks.

More seriously a "normal" decay is manageable as a life build with capped chaos res, it just last for eternity. The problem I see is that everyone can slap this mod on a random weapon and add it to his damages for free.

Could you duel/ hit me with it a few times?