[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

Damn, there is a low budget build like this? I can't afford this, i'm looking for a build to start at Breach.

Any major changes to this build because of flasks charges changes?

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LOLYOU1337 wrote:

Any major changes to this build because of flasks charges changes?

It only affects flasks with "Surgeon" prefix and Master Surgeon node of Pathfinders.

If you used Master Surgeon before, drop it for Veteran Bowyer, it should provide better overall charge generation, just remember to roll Staunching on one of your flasks. That's about all the changes we need to make. Patch was aimed at nerfing Blade Vortex Pathfinders rather than Pathfinders in general I think.

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allforone999 wrote:

Can you compare the TS with barrage in terms of single target damage. Let's say both skill has the corresponding helmet enchant, a 5l+Gmp TS compare 6 link barrage.

i use
considering the enchant, barrage deals probably 50%+ more damage on average ( with the enchant maybe 80-100% more damage), barrage always hit the boss if it doesnt move, tornado shot you have to shot exactly on it for the max dps,

barrage has more damage, but with tornado shot you can hit offscreen, barrage is bad if the boss moves around quickly, while some tornado shot arrows always hit if the boss moves

i use a lot blink arrow and hit off screen for some bosses like daresso

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InAshesTheyShallReap wrote:

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allforone999 wrote:

Can you compare the TS with barrage in terms of single target damage. Let's say both skill has the corresponding helmet enchant, a 5l+Gmp TS compare 6 link barrage.

i use

considering the enchant, barrage deals probably 50%+ more damage on average ( with the enchant maybe 80-100% more damage), barrage always hit the boss if it doesnt move, tornado shot you have to shot exactly on it for the max dps,

barrage has more damage, but with tornado shot you can hit offscreen, barrage is bad if the boss moves around quickly, while some tornado shot arrows always hit if the boss moves

i use a lot blink arrow and hit off screen for some bosses like daresso

I agree. I think tornado shot is slightly lower but not too much on single target damage. I am just wondering how much the difference between these 2 skills. I feel like for the big size target like Arby, TS can deal as much as damage as barrage.In the meantime, tornado shot has some significant advantage in the situations like multiple boss fight, offscreen shot, and fight with summoner bosses.

How does a high rolled legacy ROTC compare to a high rolled harbinger? Which one is better?

How does the DPS compare with this 372 pDPS reach to a Mirrored Phys harb?

best bow which is 608 pdps, 9.40 crit harbinger has 50%-55% more dps in tooltip. (assuming both have maximum numbers of arrows)

leg reach is very powerful, it's as good as 430-440 pdps max crit harbinger.(for barrage)

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Rupenus wrote:

best bow which is 608 pdps, 9.40 crit harbinger has 50%-55% more dps in tooltip. (assuming both have maximum numbers of arrows)

leg reach is very powerful, it's as good as 430-440 pdps max crit harbinger.(for barrage)

thats true but the mirrored harbinger bow can never hit as many arrows as a legacy reach. shouldnt that be taken into account in your dps calculations? legacy reach will always have 4 more arrows.

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Selvam wrote:

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Rupenus wrote:

best bow which is 608 pdps, 9.40 crit harbinger has 50%-55% more dps in tooltip. (assuming both have maximum numbers of arrows)

leg reach is very powerful, it's as good as 430-440 pdps max crit harbinger.(for barrage)

thats true but the mirrored harbinger bow can never hit as many arrows as a legacy reach. shouldnt that be taken into account in your dps calculations? legacy reach will always have 4 more arrows.

everything taken into consideration while doing the math. i did the math with tooltip shown dps x 10(arrow number) for brood twine; 14(arrow number for reach) x tooltip dps of reach and compared both.

harbinger has 50+% more crit chance, that's simply 50% more arrows in terms of theoretical total dps. figure out the rest. in one of the pages i did a long calculation of it. you may check.

(in a case where you have mirrored bow but no +2 barrage enchantment or +1 quiver, leg reach closes the gap much better with mirrored bow)