[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

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Hejtero wrote:

Elite tree?

There is one for legacy vinktar and other one for ppl without.
Since legacy vinktar gives instra leech u drop vaal pact then.




Can someone experienced help me with optimal use of my budget? 85 +/- EX

I rather go for Skyforths and gather for a better bow later, that would safe the time for later since there will be no need to change the resists with just bow change.

so

Skyforths: 40 EX
800 ES Regalia: 7-10 EX depends what resists

should i got for barrage helmet or focus on better jewelry ? what gonna net more dps

what with bow? Death Opus or rare Harb 380~ pDPS

i think going 1st for skyforth is good option, the main reason is it opens up a flask slot..

i recorded a 2nd video to showcase something.. this time i added some dmg mods for the boss, nothing scary 35% incr.damage, 30% attack speed.. -10 max res..and..

https://youtu.be/L9FUkBB55wM

(next he died after 3 sec but i didn't record it, no point)

so... conclusions:

1. even if you have increased critical in your frenzy and power charge on critical you can always loose your power charges.

2. i strongly suggest to have a defensive flask when you plan your build.. taste of hate or basalt.. and at least 8k es..


personally i like this build but i think it has a limit to how much hard mods can run in a reasonable budget.. maybe because i played before a 3-curse whispering ice build that was rly tanky.. :)

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Hejtero wrote:

Elite tree?

There is one for legacy vinktar and other one for ppl without.
Since legacy vinktar gives instra leech u drop vaal pact then.




Can someone experienced help me with optimal use of my budget? 85 +/- EX

I rather go for Skyforths and gather for a better bow later, that would safe the time for later since there will be no need to change the resists with just bow change.

so

Skyforths: 40 EX
800 ES Regalia: 7-10 EX depends what resists

should i got for barrage helmet or focus on better jewelry ? what gonna net more dps

what with bow? Death Opus or rare Harb 380~ pDPS

I will tell you what I'm currently focusing on in Legacy SC league with a much smaller budget. Skyforths is not my concern.

1) Dying Sun- 4-5ex
2) Corrupted Signal Fire w/extra arrow - 15ex
3) ilvl 84 Hubris with +2 arrow barrage - 9ex

Beyond that I think you would want:
Pen Vinktar
6L Death's Opus
6L 800+es chest
Decent Jewelry and Jewels.
Brinerot boots

.. With spending your currency on these items instead of skyforth you will do more damage. Skyforth should be one of the last items on your shopping list as jaws of agony weapon swap is a great alternative for getting power charges before a boss fight. But hey, to each their own :)

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Hejtero wrote:

Elite tree?

There is one for legacy vinktar and other one for ppl without.
Since legacy vinktar gives instra leech u drop vaal pact then.




Can someone experienced help me with optimal use of my budget? 85 +/- EX

I rather go for Skyforths and gather for a better bow later, that would safe the time for later since there will be no need to change the resists with just bow change.

so

Skyforths: 40 EX
800 ES Regalia: 7-10 EX depends what resists

should i got for barrage helmet or focus on better jewelry ? what gonna net more dps

what with bow? Death Opus or rare Harb 380~ pDPS

you have to do the math, calculate how much +%dps is +1 arrow, open path of building, craft gg jewels and get an approximate number of your final dps.

you have to do the math alone becuse we dont have the gear you have, and dps test with different setups.

also even though we can guess and say which is better, there might be moments where you neeed to use some basic math equations.

also one last note: people miss how much dps an amulet can add.

i'm giving the best amulet in game as example;(vengeance collar)
it gives around +36% dps to my build. please take a second to realize what huge amount of dps that is:
and people focusing on skyforth instead of 38 multi, 38 chance, 15- 26 phys, 350 accuracy, 36wed, 20% ES amulet, i find it a bit sad. (of course the amulet i've given as an example is totally perfect in leagues, but having an amulet which has 4 or 5 of those mods are gg enough)

Here are a few vids I recorded to show league capability this afternoon. I will try to find/borrow a deaths opus to show that later tonight.

Hideout DPS


Minotaur Boss Kill


Full Minotaur run (different map from above)

yeah thanks but as i said with u crazy gear even white bow gonna kill stuff :D


So Rupenus advises to drop Skyforths and focus on other pieces first, i would like to know more ppls opinion before shoping so what would u advise Deadmaux, blasting_cap or someone who is already experienced with it enough?

I want to chose the best way for the build to shine and the best option for nice and smooth gameplay and boss fights + easier upgrade time in future, going rare boots gonna mean fighting with resistanes after Skyforths switch...but if that means getting like 2 times more dps without it or so it gonna be worth it

@Satisfaction
i got the Dying Sun and Pen Vinktar from pervious build

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Hejtero wrote:

yeah thanks but as i said with u crazy gear even white bow gonna kill stuff :D


So Rupenus advises to drop Skyforths and focus on other pieces first, i would like to know more ppls opinion before shoping so what would u advise Deadmaux, blasting_cap or someone who is already experienced with it enough?

I want to chose the best way for the build to shine and the best option for nice and smooth gameplay and boss fights + easier upgrade time in future, going rare boots gonna mean fighting with resistanes after Skyforths switch...but if that means getting like 2 times more dps without it or so it gonna be worth it

@Satisfaction
i got the Dying Sun and Pen Vinktar from pervious build

I am in agreement with Rup. The bulk of your damage in this build comes from the bow and accessories (rings ammy). Next I would definitely go after a +2 helm. Resist should generally not be an issue on pathfinder. I run with 30-50 res in Marc but it easily hits 84 with flasks up. 800ish es 6l chest shouldn't run you more than 8 ex or so. After that your biggest damage increases will come from good 3 stat jewels (4s are going to be quite costly) and a +1 signal fire. Only after all that would I consider skyforth. Power charge generation has a number of different options through items and skill gems to solve the lack of skyforth.

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Deadmaux wrote:

Here are a few vids I recorded to show league capability this afternoon. I will try to find/borrow a deaths opus to show that later tonight.

Hideout DPS

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AT7VV7POlQ

Minotaur Boss Kill

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhHZ3OpGewU&feature=youtu.be

Full Minotaur run (different map from above)

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ33dJmXOC0

Thanks for posting the runs. Your gear is absolutely savage for league! And of course I approve of the passive tree :).

I'm also planning to post a Death's Opus run myself a little later to show what the build is capable of. Path of Building cannot be trusted to give precise dps numbers (it seems to significantly underreport the true dps), but from my calculations (which I'll post along with the league appropriate gear I'm using) Opus reaches around 3.3 million dps versus Shaper, and around 4.9 million dps versus Guardians. This means that most players can actually hold off on upgrading their bow and dump currency into good rings, amulet, jewels, and flasks and massacre all content. The build is still rather expensive, but doesn't require hundreds of exalts to trivialize content.

On a different note, as others have pointed out, Skyforth isn't critical to the build and should be viwed as more of a QoL upgrade. Against Guardians/Shaper you'll do more dps by generating Power Charges before the fights via the secondary weapon slot.


Incidentally, its possible to generate Power Charges this way:



It will take just over 4 seconds to generate all 4 power charges because of the Warcry cooldown, but at least the Power Charges are guaranteed compared to the Jaws of Agony approach (which sometimes annoyingly costs time and mana if you don't generate charges after a few tosses of mines). Additionally, there might be some weird situations in which the warcry can actually significantly boost damage if you use it among a lot of mobs before entering the boss fights. Would that be actually feasible? Probably not, but who knows.

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Deadmaux wrote:

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Hejtero wrote:

yeah thanks but as i said with u crazy gear even white bow gonna kill stuff :D


So Rupenus advises to drop Skyforths and focus on other pieces first, i would like to know more ppls opinion before shoping so what would u advise Deadmaux, blasting_cap or someone who is already experienced with it enough?

I want to chose the best way for the build to shine and the best option for nice and smooth gameplay and boss fights + easier upgrade time in future, going rare boots gonna mean fighting with resistanes after Skyforths switch...but if that means getting like 2 times more dps without it or so it gonna be worth it

@Satisfaction
i got the Dying Sun and Pen Vinktar from pervious build

I am in agreement with Rup. The bulk of your damage in this build comes from the bow and accessories (rings ammy). Next I would definitely go after a +2 helm. Resist should generally not be an issue on pathfinder. I run with 30-50 res in Marc but it easily hits 84 with flasks up. 800ish es 6l chest shouldn't run you more than 8 ex or so. After that your biggest damage increases will come from good 3 stat jewels (4s are going to be quite costly) and a +1 signal fire. Only after all that would I consider skyforth. Power charge generation has a number of different options through items and skill gems to solve the lack of skyforth.

im not afraid of Power Charges, stun avoidance is the problem + the need of juggling resists again after getting the Skyforths in later time. Also what would u chose for a stun immunity, probably Valyrium, i don't want to run Kiara i rather have sth that gonna have 100% uptime.

Also if i wait few days and try to sell res of my items i can get around 10 EX more

There is like month of the league so far so if the killing speed with Death Opus gonna be similar to Sarang 380 pDPS bow thats enough for me and i can always farm for a better bow (almoust 2 months of league left)


btw. a lot of ppl tells to chaos spam a helmet, i usually alt, regal, slam my helmets, is chaos spamming usually more efficient?

dont think, skyforth can save you from stuns either. as i said and i see people also agree, skyforth is just a QoL upgrade. with 1.1k mana, you would get stunned too. (that is equal to 5.5k life build stun threshold)

so would u recommend Valyrium then?

so dropping Skyforths (not like i am a big fan of them) i prefer DMG over Skyforths.

How would u then spent that budget 85-90 EX

what bow, how much ES regalia and so.



power chargers with assassin mark then for mapping? and jaws of agony for bosses/that warcry setup or what?

brinerot or rare boots?
additional arrow signal fire?


edit:
managed to buy 2 arrow Hubris for 6ex, would u recommend chaos spam or alt regal? i usually do second not experienced with chaos spamming and how efficient is it


i appreciate any help :D i didnt play PoE like for a week, selling stuff and getting ur feedback to spent the budget the best way possible, would be nice to already start buying stuff and i don't want to screw up, i have just basic knowledge of PoE and i know nothing about Bow builds playing PoE around 2 months now.