[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

Yeah i know that many builds can do shaper and guardians if u can dodge well and want to spend few mins fighting.

I was rather counting on faceroll guardians kills or sth in a matter of seconds. You can actually kill Guardians with most of the builds if u want to spent few mins fighting. There was that crazy Empyrian guy what killed Guardians with Vaal Spark fighting like few mins each lol.

I could run Shaper and Guardians with HoWA and its smooth also with a lot lower investment. Im just tired of it and trying to find myself a Bow build to clear End Game comfortably and im not into some double dipping voltaxic shit.
Hello, sorry for the off topic....Are you chiseling/vaaling maps while farming/leveling and if so, from what map tier? Thank you.
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stred_ wrote:
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gamegordy wrote:
Hello, what are the best gems to use for LA in 5L? thank you very much


after previous suggestions i played for hours in path of building to find best setups:

in my case for death opus and generating power charges via herald+curse on hit+assasin's mark

1.LA+WED+LMP+SLOWER PROJECTILES+ADDED LIGHTING DAMAGE

2.If you generate power charges with other method use elemental focus instead of added lighting.

i tried this setup for 2 hours yesterday and i can confirm that the damage is satisfactory in most cases using wrath and herald of ice.


p.s.

for barrage is barrage+wed+slower projectiles+added light+elemental focus

i suggest to try path of building to find yourself the best combination for your gear.


Thx for the nice input! I thought i tested out "added lightning" for the barrage setup - but turns out I didn't, that's certainly a dmg boost over "faster attacks". Looking to skip "void barrier" as well, as soon as I can do the gearswap (hard to change one piece at a time with the wise-oak-balancing).

Speaking of Wise Oak - the PoB calculation seems to entirely skip the penetration from the flask - for me at least. The PoB dmg numbers might be way too low because of that.

My setup is similar to yours (Death's Opus, Brinerot, jewellery with wed+added phys), but with valyrium instead of kiara's. Kiara's certainly very sustainable in maps or fights like minotaur - but do you manage to keep it up in longer drawn-out fights / those with phases?

My gem setup for now is:
Barrage-PTL-WED-EleF-SP-FA (looking to swap FA for added Lightning)
TS-GMP-PTL-WED-Pierce-FA/SP
Frenzy-COH-PCoC-AM (swap for EleWeakness vs bosses)
Wrath-Discipline (auras), CWDT-IC, Blink Arrow, ice golem, decoy totem, vaal haste (3r/1g would be best to swap out decoy for IncDur)

According to PoB a 3rd Aura (Herald) isn't very beneficial for a death's opus setup (not for mine at least). Herald of Thunder would provide the best dmg boost (+5.8%), but that's not really worth putting passive points into it - or sacrificing gem links (imo).
Last edited by juerk#7020 on Apr 12, 2017, 8:37:30 AM
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juerk wrote:
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stred_ wrote:
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gamegordy wrote:
Hello, what are the best gems to use for LA in 5L? thank you very much


after previous suggestions i played for hours in path of building to find best setups:

in my case for death opus and generating power charges via herald+curse on hit+assasin's mark

1.LA+WED+LMP+SLOWER PROJECTILES+ADDED LIGHTING DAMAGE

2.If you generate power charges with other method use elemental focus instead of added lighting.

i tried this setup for 2 hours yesterday and i can confirm that the damage is satisfactory in most cases using wrath and herald of ice.


p.s.

for barrage is barrage+wed+slower projectiles+added light+elemental focus

i suggest to try path of building to find yourself the best combination for your gear.


Thx for the nice input! I thought i tested out "added lightning" for the barrage setup - but turns out I didn't, that's certainly a dmg boost over "faster attacks". Looking to skip "void barrier" as well, as soon as I can do the gearswap (hard to change one piece at a time with the wise-oak-balancing).

Speaking of Wise Oak - the PoB calculation seems to entirely skip the penetration from the flask - for me at least. The PoB dmg numbers might be way too low because of that.

My setup is similar to yours (Death's Opus, Brinerot, jewellery with wed+added phys), but with valyrium instead of kiara's. Kiara's certainly very sustainable in maps or fights like minotaur - but do you manage to keep it up in longer drawn-out fights / those with phases?

My gem setup for now is:
Barrage-PTL-WED-EleF-SP-FA (looking to swap FA for added Lightning)
TS-GMP-PTL-WED-Pierce-FA/SP
Frenzy-COH-PCoC-AM (swap for EleWeakness vs bosses)
Wrath-Discipline (auras), CWDT-IC, Blink Arrow, ice golem, decoy totem, vaal haste (3r/1g would be best to swap out decoy for IncDur)

According to PoB a 3rd Aura (Herald) isn't very beneficial for a death's opus setup (not for mine at least). Herald of Thunder would provide the best dmg boost (+5.8%), but that's not really worth putting passive points into it - or sacrificing gem links (imo).







Yes PoB doesn't calculate the wise oak's effect. you have to manually add an extra link of lightning pen, or whatever pen you are using with it.
for a 5 link what would our gems be?

TS

TS-FA-Phys to light - Pierce - GMP?

Barrage

Barrage - Slower proj - PPAD - Wed - Ele focus?

I am using a curse on hit setup with no skyforths
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juerk wrote:


Thx for the nice input! I thought i tested out "added lightning" for the barrage setup - but turns out I didn't, that's certainly a dmg boost over "faster attacks". Looking to skip "void barrier" as well, as soon as I can do the gearswap (hard to change one piece at a time with the wise-oak-balancing).

Speaking of Wise Oak - the PoB calculation seems to entirely skip the penetration from the flask - for me at least. The PoB dmg numbers might be way too low because of that.

My setup is similar to yours (Death's Opus, Brinerot, jewellery with wed+added phys), but with valyrium instead of kiara's. Kiara's certainly very sustainable in maps or fights like minotaur - but do you manage to keep it up in longer drawn-out fights / those with phases?

My gem setup for now is:
Barrage-PTL-WED-EleF-SP-FA (looking to swap FA for added Lightning)
TS-GMP-PTL-WED-Pierce-FA/SP
Frenzy-COH-PCoC-AM (swap for EleWeakness vs bosses)
Wrath-Discipline (auras), CWDT-IC, Blink Arrow, ice golem, decoy totem, vaal haste (3r/1g would be best to swap out decoy for IncDur)

According to PoB a 3rd Aura (Herald) isn't very beneficial for a death's opus setup (not for mine at least). Herald of Thunder would provide the best dmg boost (+5.8%), but that's not really worth putting passive points into it - or sacrificing gem links (imo).




Well from yesterday i mostly do calculations than playing, here some conclusion that maybe help you also.

1. dropped heralds...
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as we you said, the damage not worth the investment (3 points for charisma)

2. power charge generation:
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for power charge use PCoC with your clearing skill.. you will loose some damage that you can gain back with the elemental focus gem, 49% more multiplier is like pierce+slower projectiles together!

i like LA the best for the full conversion(no need for phys to light support) and for the inherit chain it has. also LMP works just fine with it.

before bosses jaws of agony+cluster traps

3. auto cursing method: only for bosses needed, all other die too fast :)
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CWDT lvl1+ball lighting+curse on hit+ curse of your choice lvl20 (elem. weakness or enfeeble)
or
CWDT lvl20+ curce lvl20

4. frenzies
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a)blood rage in maps
b)for bosses=frenzy+faster attacks+pcoc+ whatever you like (blind, increased critical, etc)

5. wise oak + path of building
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do you have version 1.3.26 of the program? go to calculation and hover to MH.eff DPS Mod, there it should have in the calculations the added penetration in the damage type you have more.

6. kiara's sustainibility in boss fights with phases
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my biggest issue till now.. what i am thinking:
drop veteran bowyer for master surgeon
-pros
a)can have diamond flask with movement speed instead of remove bleeding, so move speed goes to +111% from +66%.. this is HUGE QoL, having switch from rotgut to kiara's this is one my main issues.
b)more charge generations? have to field test it

-cons
loose some dmg.. according to path of building with my current setup from 1.41M goes down to 1.26M.. solution: dying sun instead of taste of hate.. or for budget option atziri's promise.




Last edited by stred_#1662 on Apr 12, 2017, 11:18:11 AM
just use overflowing chalice in boss fights to sustain kiara, get maximum +flask charges gained from tree as much as you can.

reduced flask charges% on belt is a must.

note: i didn't tried out by myself, but to sustain flasks this is the most legit way. trust me its not worth to drop veteran bowyer. chalice gives you every flask 1 charge per second(with investments), master bowyer gives 5 total flask charges per second, i'd recommend you to use multiple vinktars if oyu happen to run out of charges very often.
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Last edited by Rupenus#5905 on Apr 12, 2017, 11:38:29 AM
Did anyone maybe record Shaper and Guardian run with Death Opus with Skyforths and decent gear?

I rly want to try this Bow build but i can't afford a mirror Harbringer and im curious of the clear speed, would it be in the range of a HoWA ST or a much slower with the budget of 70-80EX?
ofc half of that gonna be Skyforths then like 30 left for other gear beside flasks since i have them.

Ofc i know that 5 sec kills wont be possible without 500pDPS + Harbringer but still im curious of the speed.
How to get more DPS ; my barrage have only 20000 dps
@Level 88 Pathfinder Standard league

my item
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Please help me build this character T_T
Last edited by nutza7044#6452 on Apr 12, 2017, 1:32:45 PM
I did get a nice deal on my Wand so currently at 80 EX with a chance toget another +/- 10 if im manage to sell few things.


Considering i got Pen Vinktar and Dying Sun + 6% Energy from Within can i manage to make a build with decent Boss killing speed? ofc im still not in a range for grear Harb but i think its all i can get for now.

How would u spent that budget, ofc like 40 EX for Skyforths that leaves 40 (50 in good scenario) for rest of the items
Last edited by Hejti#4526 on Apr 12, 2017, 2:31:51 PM

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