2.3 LA build update: 87 pen / 7.65k hybrid / almost 300kdps / 200+ MS

a couple of questions i hope you will answer :)

1, how is the LA build for pve & end game bosses?

2, is the current tree from your character updated for the 2.4 ?

3, what is the mininum a bow must have in pDPS before the build work well?

hope you will answer :)

this thread first of all made for pvp users. when they check my tree , they know why i have chosen some passives above others.


1-LA is a bad skill choice for single target. it's good for map clearing. however, if you stack too much dps, reflect starts to be a big problem with LA. barrage + chain with volley fire is what im using. it doesnt offer the best clear speed but i feel safer against reflect. barrage is best for single target, blast rain is good in crowdy boss areas.

2- You should't be using my tree. My tree is pvp oriented and has synergy with the gear & flasks im using. If you copy it, it wont work for you. Also my tree is made to be able to gather enough strength needed to wear kaoms/leg kaoms yet be able to reach alchemist flask nodes. these are very pvp oriented choices. also im using mind over matter, i havent tested that vs shaper. in pvp it works wonders.

all i can say is, stack attack speed and phys damage% from tree. get 150-160%+ life. As reach user, it is hard for you to stack critical chance so you have to go to the shadow area. however, i'm traveling around scion, duelist area mostly. we need critical chance for consistent life leech during vinktar effect. getting no crit 3 in a row might cause you to dead while facetanking bosses. so we need 60% crit chance.

3- reach is a really good bow and it is relatively cheap for 400pdps harbinger bows. all you gotta do is as i said before using increased critical strikes gem instead of ele focus.

LA update,

for those who abuse LA,

light pen

you don't need to use Light pen anymore, most of the time.
5 hysteria belt, 14 from tree, 10 pathfinder, 10 from boots, 39 pen. when you have vinktar on you'd get 54 pen. but let's say 39 pen.

100 damage + ele focus makes, 150 damage.

vs

100 damage + (39+38) pen 77 pen;

150 damage can deal 64(25) + 39 pen) damage per 100 damage; (0.64 x 150 = 92 damage)

100 damage with pen can deal 102 damage.

in the comparison ele focus is just a little bit behind of light pen. wwhen vinktar is on, ele focus gets better than light pen. but if you also put to the comparison conversion talismans, ele focus is way better than light pen.

how do we deal with mid/close range while there is no fw + LA abuse?

BR mines is the answer, they auto target to enemy from great distance and most of the time, they one shot. you need to have some projectile speed so blast rain "rain delay" will be shorter but don't focus on it much, the more proj speed you have the worse auto aim BR mines get. anyway, from blast rain mines even lib can't survive or mull gubben, you name it. with decent gear everything is one shot. you need 48+ mine laying speed at least, my recommendation is focusing on getting mine laying speed on jewels and getting as much jewels as possible while collecting life and bow damage nodes. don't spend your passives on mine points instead of main clever construction wheel, you'd end up having low LA damage.

Mines have 49 pen for Light, 41 for fire,
10 from CC wheel, 10 from boots, 10 from pf, 5 from belt, 14 from tree(light), 6(global),
don't ever use any pen with your blast rain mines.

i have 222k LA damage,
26k blast rain mines daamge,

gear:

keep in mind that belt sucks,


this is actually slightly better. and yes, i need a hysteira belt but guess what there is no good belt like that in market.


cwdt flame dash can't counter BR mines when you have dying sun on(+45 aoe) and to ensure that your mines land on your opponent i recommend you to use mirror arrow so the cwdt flame dash will trigger the player to teleport next to the mirror arrow decoy.

-cons
finding hysteria belt is really hard
-you need 2x6l so, you can't get tanky with kaoms/leg kaoms anymore. my solution is getting hybrid since i have the gear for it, the other possibility and probably better is MoM + good amount of mana. my rings are mirrored so i mostly focus on one shotting people instead of getting tanky. my gear choices forces me to choose t hat path. it's not the best.

Opinions on a CI version? are you just limited by gear to not go CI?

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Rupenus wrote:

LA update,

for those who abuse LA,

-you need 2x6l so, you can't get tanky with kaoms/leg kaoms anymore. my solution is getting hybrid since i have the gear for it, the other possibility and probably better is MoM + good amount of mana. my rings are mirrored so i mostly focus on one shotting people instead of getting tanky. my gear choices forces me to choose t hat path. it's not the best.

If go for MoM, do I need corupted item with "damage taken gained as mana"? or just regular one with + mana is enought?
Since FW change, LA cant offscreen 1-shot anymore, should I use barrage or tornado shot instead?

LA offscreen shot has nothing to do with frost walls. it's all about how much you invested on aoe of LA.

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If go for MoM, do I need corupted item with "damage taken gained as mana"? or just regular one with + mana is enought?

yes damage taken gained as mana% rings would be the best, and use spike point quiver to compensate lack of crit chance on rings.

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Opinions on a CI version?

i think CI version would be as good as hybrid/mom one. the thing i like about life base is that we can use life potions with anti curse + surgeon(that gives almost unending anti curse charges) and the other thing is that good EA players(few) main strength is doing chip damage and outflask you or force CI players always fight on low ES pool.

flasks are good for that.

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Rupenus wrote:

LA offscreen shot has nothing to do with frost walls. it's all about how much you invested on aoe of LA.

Which do you think is the best offscreen skill at the moment, LA, Iceshot, or fireball maybe?

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H0X9 wrote:

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Rupenus wrote:

LA offscreen shot has nothing to do with frost walls. it's all about how much you invested on aoe of LA.

Which do you think is the best offscreen skill at the moment, LA, Iceshot, or fireball maybe?

ice shot can be really good, as you know ice shot is better to offscreen than LA. and has higher base damage. worth to try.

fireball is good too but casters dont have the mobility of rangers. LA or ice shot has better dps also. you can't also invest only on offscreen abilities, rumi's + dodge tanky builds can outplay you easily.

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Rupenus wrote:

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H0X9 wrote:

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Rupenus wrote:

LA offscreen shot has nothing to do with frost walls. it's all about how much you invested on aoe of LA.

Which do you think is the best offscreen skill at the moment, LA, Iceshot, or fireball maybe?

ice shot can be really good, as you know ice shot is better to offscreen than LA. and has higher base damage. worth to try.

fireball is good too but casters dont have the mobility of rangers. LA or ice shot has better dps also. you can't also invest only on offscreen abilities, rumi's + dodge tanky builds can outplay you easily.

Tks for your answer, but I thought caster can also utilize lightning warp for mobility, and trap/mine just like ranger? (ofcourse that would require a 6-linked +3 staff)
About mines, do you need all 5 mines to 1 shot people or just 2-3 mines? Can you use blast rain yourself or you must use mine to cover the mid/close range area?
And how many life/ES do you have currently?

All long-range spells have very slow projectile speed compared to arrows, even if you sacrifice a support gem for it. Because of this there are some tricks like the invisible projectile of Fireball at max range, but if you pay attention to only one opponent, you can avoid that.