PVP Supporter Pack - Chris responded 7/10 & 7/11 & 7/12

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dalb3 wrote:
Okay! Chris responded again and I have his blessing to share the following information with the community.

This is a direct copy/paste from Chris during our convo:

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I spoke to the balance guys about the T values and they agree with the importance of it. We may be able to include an update of these into 2.4.0, though that entirely depends when various developers finish with their part of the upcoming content. I think that including correct T values for new skills is a must for the future.


This is great news for 4 reasons:

-This is the first acknowledgment I've seen of GGG addressing skills not going through the pvp damage reduction formula (No T Value).

-All skills will be assigned T values, as early as 2.4, but as he mentioned it depends on how everything else is going. I know this isn't a guaranteed timeframe, but it is them agreeing they need to be fixed sooner rather than later and are showing they are going to do something about it.

- All New skills introduced will have T values.

- We do not need to purchase anything in order for the T values to be addressed! They are handing this on their own, like many agreed should be the case anyway.

I'm really happy with the outcome so far!!!


So what about the PVP supporter packs?

In the immediate future, it seems unlikely, but he admitted (and we knew from the start anyway) that this will take time. This is not a definitive "No". He still likes the idea, and will continue to bring it up with the team when the opportunity arises to discuss it and/or make changes. I have asked him if they need any input from the community in the future to please reach out, and we'd be more than happy to help in a harmonious manner that can benefit everyone.


For people just now reading this thread and/or haven't posted here yet, please post if a PVP supporter pack is something that interests you.
We should continue to try and gather concrete numbers for GGG because this matters!

For everyone that has already posted and shown support, a sincere and deep thanks for helping
. Judging by the T value discussion, I think we're finally starting to make some waves, and we just need to work together in order to continue.

If there are any updates I will come here and post!

Thanks everyone for being involved! PVP in this game has great promise and we need to all work together to help it thrive.

-Ahfack


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GGG's promised much less in the past, and every time they get our hopes are up, they've inevitability failed and burnt up our hopes and dreams.

It's a step in the right direction, yes, but I'll lay my expectations low.

The reply in itself seems VErrryy situational, rather it's presumptuously optimistic, do you really believe in "true game balance" that everything is fair and square and balanced? Nobody on here will be happy regardless of either things.

But rather, it's just grim reminder of reality, I guess. Without constant updates, and value changes, even if they'd balance everything perfectly this time around, and not do anything else in the future, the meta will become stale, and whatever has a higher advantage, will become the next QQ thing, as per usual.
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Last edited by 1Tokimeki2003#6663 on Jul 11, 2016, 8:54:39 AM
Sadly I'm with Libri on this one, lots of talking with no actions made me loose faith. All the answers Crhsi, Dan, Quarl , ect gave always went into this direction : "We are aware of this and we are gonna fix it in a close future" and by "close" they pretty much mean never.

I'll be glad to be proven wrong.
New skills not going through the same pvp damage reduction formulas as others is arguably the biggest problem with PVP at the moment (Vortex for example), 2nd only to AoE overlap FW/Wall shotgunning etc... but I know you'll just defend that. I'm not saying PVP is going to be perfect or balanced, that's not what we're discussing. The next step is T values being addressed. GGG is saying they are going to do this on their own like everyone wanted without the need of a supporter pack. That is great news.

You will believe it when you see it re: T values?

How about a friendly wager?



I bet you they will address T values on their own.
You bet me they will not.

Cool?

Edit: not you ice lol
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Last edited by Ahfack#1969 on Jul 11, 2016, 10:23:31 AM
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dalb3 wrote:
New skills not going through the same pvp damage reduction formulas as others is arguably the biggest problem with PVP at the moment (Vortex for example), 2nd only to AoE overlap FW/Wall shotgunning etc... but I know you'll just defend that. I'm not saying PVP is going to be perfect or balanced, that's not what we're discussing. The next step is T values being addressed. GGG is saying they are going to do this on their own like everyone wanted without the need of a supporter pack. That is great news.

You will believe it when you see it re: T values?

How about a friendly wager?



I bet you they will address T values on their own.
You bet me they will not.

Cool?

Edit: not you ice lol


timeline of bet haha, if this never happen, until when the best is lost haha. :P

Like we wait 1 month/6month/1year before bet is lost/win.



Also bump, I want to buy supporter pack
Poe Pvp experience
https://youtu.be/Z6eg3aB_V1g?t=302
Last edited by Head_Less#6633 on Jul 11, 2016, 10:46:28 AM
Haha I want to buy one too! ;)

Well insinuating someone will never do something means they will not accomplish said task no matter the timeline.

I'm confident this WILL happen since Chris asked me to not share some things with the community but very clearly told me to share the T value portion. If they weren't going to accomplish this, then one could surmise he would ask me to not share everything. Will it happen in 2.4? Maybe... but also maybe not just like was said.

Ice: Not to discredit anyone's previous attempts, as I'm sure everything that could've been done at the time was done, but what we're doing in this thread is a bit different than pm'ing a staff member. Yes I'm speaking with Chris, but we're bringing more to the table with this thread than before. Revenue, a plan of attack, some more time, and most importantly numbers are the things that might be on our side now. And I really do value your opinion because I'm not afraid to admit you are smarter at this game than I, but we have to do something besides bicker, uninstall, reinstall, rinse, and repeat.
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Last edited by Ahfack#1969 on Jul 11, 2016, 11:13:51 AM
Wait, maybe we should encourage mtxs, back attachment battle standards sound awesome.
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Yeah I really need a back attachment besides those godawful tentacle wings I bought drunk during rampage when they were half price. fml :)

But yeah, we are trying to get this baby to walk, he's nowhere near ready to run yet.
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Last edited by Ahfack#1969 on Jul 11, 2016, 7:22:59 PM
Then give the baby some sort of performance-enhancing drugs or some kind of amphetamine! GOTTA GET OUR PACKS!

Also, those of you who are skeptical of PvP being improved, I got my Decree of Winter back, so may my good fortune bless you all!
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