[2.5] 2600+ Int Whispering Ice Guardian. Wonderous Wizard of Wisdom
" Vaal pact is very powerful and more reliable defense then a little bit of regen The regen doesn't apply anyway unless you spend 2 points to get zealots oath so it does take an extra point over vaal pact If you play the build into really late game then you can buy skyforth boots which also disable the regen |
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" You can opt in for a regen version of this built and if you have Atziri's Acuity you can get a bit of both worlds, instant leech and regen. Currently running a variation of this built with the following skilltree: And the rahter expensive equipment:
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With this I have 243.4 ES and each 5 seconds 3285.7 ES regen per second Running Assasins Mark on Blasphemy and with 3 Power Charges up (pretty much all the time) I have 33% crit chance (before Curse) which give nice instant leech with the Gauntlets on top of the regen. Not saying this is better, but it is an alternative for people that do not like to see benefits from the tree / Ascendencies go to waste ,)
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On page 12 of this thread I also showed how you can incorporate RF with the regen, but it is no fun due to the no and reduced regen map mods and it is simply not needed in terms of damage |
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So, I've been running this build in standard, and planning on running it in Breach once i get the currency together for the Perandus Signet and Shavs (I have the WI and BSC, soon to have AStra in breach).
I also recently acquired these. The lightning damage boost is global, so i upgrade from WI's 1-3 per 10 int, to 2-12 per 10 int. I lose 1% spell damage per 10 int, but gain attack speed per 25 dex (2%). Granted, these are not perfect HoWaA's. With two perfect hands, you'd gain INT over a WI, going up to 109% increased intelligence, over WI's 100% (With legacy Perandus Signet, perf Black Sun Crest, perf WI/Hand, and dual Emperor's gems) I'm looking at trying to build a variant of this build utilizing a pair of these rather than WI. Thanks to wielding two uniques, and each unique having +INT%, i should be able to pull out one or two of the DEX-to-INT conversion jewels and replace them with something to boost attack speed, or possibly the Emperor's Cunning 6% dex gem. Then, respec out of a few of the Cast Speed specific and Spell Damage specific nodes to try to spec into Attack Speed and (Weapon) Elemental Damage nodes. Mostly this just means taking out Light of Divinity and going towards Catalyse, and possibly moving a jewel slot from the +mana at the top of the witch over to the +Elemental Damage at the top of the witch. Also probably want to swap Frost Walker to Lightning Walker. Trying to think what attack gems would work best with this weapon. Blade Flurry most likely, and Vaal Cyclone to clear breaches. Unfortunately I only have two 3-slot weapons to utilize rather than a 6 (7)-slot Whispering Ice. Any thoughts? I'd really like to see if i can make this build work with minimal changes to how the Guardian build already runs. Edit: Did some tinkering in Path of Building. Replaced WI with a pair of Hands. Replaced one DEX conversion jewel with Emperor's Cunning. No other changes to the tree. At my level, 85, I go to 2192 INT, and 286 DEX. 8k ES, 15k with Vaal Discipline up. Blade Flurry-Life Leech - Weapon Elemental Damage gives about 60k dps. Rearranging passives to get Catalyse, Lighting Walker, and moving the +mana to +elemental damage bumps Blade Flurry to 75k dps. For right now, I've placed Emperor's Cunning in the Scion section node. However, moving the Emperor's Cunning jewel to the Ranger section gives us an extra 1k dps, but drops our ES by about 400. Final stats: STR: 204 DEX: 286 INT: 2213 Blade Flurry - Weapon Elemental Damage - Life Leech DPS: 74526 Energy Shield: 8005 (without Vaal Discipline) Total Mana: 2703 Unreserved Mana: 10% Life: 1305 Unreserved Life: 17 (could drop Clarity, but the extra ES is worth more than the life) Path of Building import code:
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Last edited by akkristor#2500 on Dec 7, 2016, 12:14:19 PM
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Hiya! Looking forward to playing this build this league once I've gotten the gear.
As for akkristor's modification to the build, cool! I would suggest trying out Shaper's Touch to fix accuracy issues, however letting go of those curse with elemental weakness on hit Asenath's sounds rough. There are shaper's touch with the same corrupt for sale (at too high prices for me) in standard though. Alternatively giving up on Elemental Overload and picking up Resolute Techniques? Looks like there's Cold Resistance lacking? Not sure how to fix that unfortunately. Not sure if you're still in the process of switching nodes but in case you missed it I'm unsure how much the Occultist's Dominion node helps, perhaps Arcing Blows or just traveling straight down to Lightning Walker as well as the attack speed nodes by the scion jewel slot rather than the spell damage ones. Oh, and Pain Attunement. Looking forward to seeing you improve your variant :-) I'm working on a different variant too, will share once I've tried it out! Edit: Tinkered around in Path of Building, if you move around some auras you can get a 6 link blade flurry in the shavronne's wrappings, if that is the attack of choice. It's really strong at the moment so I imagine it is. I feel like I've missed something though, so I'd recommend a double-check. And if you get/have a skyforth, it would be a bit different. Also, technically Wrath gives more damage than Haste, but I imagine Haste feels a lot better to play with.
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Edit 2: Aw shoot, had no idea the emperor jewels were limited to 1, what a shame. Doryani's is a nice idea. I look forward to hearing about how it performs :-) Last edited by Sprouting#3937 on Dec 7, 2016, 6:20:26 PM
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" I hadn't noticed that Arcing Blows node, and yes, Occultit's Dominion doesn't really help much at all. Right now I feel like there is far too much mana regeneration in the tree, Blade Flurry only has a mana cost of 5-6, even with 6 attacks per second you only need 36 mana regen per second. I've hit 151. Deep Thoughts and Primal Spirit can be removed and replaced with +10 INT and the Lightning side of Storm Weaver, getting us a net DPS boost, but again losing ES. Swapping the spell damage for attack speed, and going into Arcing Blows gives me a dps of 99,908 at level 90, retaining the 8/15k ES. As for Resolute Technique: According to the calculator, we'd end up losing about 5k on this build by taking Resolute Technique over Elemental Overload. Yes, our hit chance isn't 100%, but it's not terrible, and the increased elemental damage if we've crit recently makes up for it. (77%) EDIT: Cold resistance can be made up for by switching to Doryani's Invitation (Lightning),which also gives a nice DPS boost. I didn't even think to swap the auras into other slots and use Shavs for Blade Flurry. The tree you linked has 3 Emperor's Mastery jewels. They are limited to 1.
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With these changes, we've theorycrafted up to 372k dps. Pretty nice. Last edited by akkristor#2500 on Dec 7, 2016, 4:21:11 PM
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Yeah I also noticed the claws. I havn't really theory crafted with them yet but I will if I get my hands on a pair. The first thing I noticed is unlike icestorm Int doesn't scale base damage and % damage at the same time. That means that after a certain point % damage becomes a greater DPS increase then flat damage which means that you can't just scale Int with as much focus as in the WI build.
Arcing blows and maybe heart of thunder would probably help with that. Off the top of my head I'd use Blade Flurry - Weapon elemental damage - Lightning penetration - Increased AOE - Elemental Focus - Faster attacks Added lightning is possible but I think that you'll already have too much flat damage so all the "more" damage boosts will just be better Same thinking with swapping Haste into Wrath. Haste is generally a bad aura so Wrath might be better but attack speed might outscale flat damage with high levels of Int already giving flat damage |
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Hey Waffle,
Me again! Thought I'd chime in. Day 5 of the league I duo'd some t14's and even the Breachlord Xoph with this build. The temp chains on hit with the gloves combined with chill, the 7 auras and all the Guardian benefits from that really are amazing. I'm sitting at just under 1.5k int right now so my damage isn't quite there yet, but I've been a huge help in any group for quite a while now. Oh, and I did try Solaris and it bugged the crap out of me only having like 5.2k ES at level 70, so I went CI, took about 10 ES nodes on the tree, and wore a ~450 ES chest piece. I could only run something like Discipline, Haste, and clarity at the time but it was enough to get me through the first two labs and mapping up until about level 85 and t8 when I switched back to LL (but still with Solaris). That is, until earlier today when I finally got my hands on a Shav's and things really got fun! Next on the list is to grab a 2nd Perandus ring and then try and fit some unique boots in there. One thing that I found worked out really well while using about half uniques was to drop purity of elements and just run the 3 base purities since they give the maximum resist buffs. That way, I could still easily cap with just decent boots and a ring and still give great benefit to my group. Two more reflections: I wish I could have gotten Arcane Vision and Unwavering Stance much sooner. Holy crap were those huge QOL improvements. Thanks again for this amazing build! |
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I am totally doing this build in BHC with the new claws instead to see how it performs. Pretty squishy at Dried Lake in Cruel thus far, so we shall see how it goes. ;) Wish me luck!
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" Heya buddy, i just started in BHC and i don't have enough currency for Shavs, what you use before Shavs? The build overall doens't have much ES or Life nodes, i don't know how risky its to try it before getting a Shavs. |
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