[2.2] Scion Clone Generator - Mirror + Blink Arrow Army (100K++ DPS) [Easy Atziri kills]

I'm with Shadow Saboteur in dried Lake with gem Level 14 and clear Speed is good for now.

If I would go with chaos and poison I would choose occultist with -25% chaos resi and 3 curses.
Temp Chain, Proj Weakness, Vulner.

Sadly I cannot calculate the poison damage.

But your arguments are good as well. Ele Sounds very good. :-)

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tobiazl wrote:

I'm with Shadow Saboteur in dried Lake with gem Level 14 and clear Speed is good for now.

If I would go with chaos and poison I would choose occultist with -25% chaos resi and 3 curses.
Temp Chain, Proj Weakness, Vulner.

Sadly I cannot calculate the poison damage.

But your arguments are good as well. Ele Sounds very good. :-)

Sounds like a reasonable run.

Isn't it quite dangerous to be near enemies with your clones to make sure your tri blasphemy curse reaches them or do you use curse on hit?

Well it is personal preference, but I will try Mind over matter. Sometimes I died easily and I think it will help. I just don't know whet implications will have with eldrich battery.

Also I prefer a 2 curse setup, like projectile weakness and elemental weakness or poacher's mark or temporal chains. Haven't decided yet.

Finally I like to pick reduce mana reserved for the auras. I want to try 3 auras anger, wrath and haste or discipline

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Celiel wrote:

Well it is personal preference, but I will try Mind over matter. Sometimes I died easily and I think it will help. I just don't know whet implications will have with eldrich battery.

Also I prefer a 2 curse setup, like projectile weakness and elemental weakness or poacher's mark or temporal chains. Haven't decided yet.

Finally I like to pick reduce mana reserved for the auras. I want to try 3 auras anger, wrath and haste or discipline

With around +175% life from passive, you just need to wear some life gear to easily reach 5k++ life.

Also, good placement of your clones help to mitigate a lot of the damage as they make good meat shields.

Elemental Weakness and Projectile Weakness should greatly increased the clones damage.

Haste has not much use as the clones have a attack speed cap of around 2.0 and with this build, you hover around 1.8 to 1.9 attack speed. Hatred as a third aura gives more damage, but nowhere as much as Anger and Wrath. Maybe you can consider Purity of Elements as it reserves less mana and helps you, and your clones with some resist.

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174nana wrote:

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tobiazl wrote:

I'm with Shadow Saboteur in dried Lake with gem Level 14 and clear Speed is good for now.

If I would go with chaos and poison I would choose occultist with -25% chaos resi and 3 curses.
Temp Chain, Proj Weakness, Vulner.

Sadly I cannot calculate the poison damage.

But your arguments are good as well. Ele Sounds very good. :-)

Sounds like a reasonable run.

Isn't it quite dangerous to be near enemies with your clones to make sure your tri blasphemy curse reaches them or do you use curse on hit?

I don´t think that it is more dangerous. My fire trapper uses blasphemy too, and it works good. The clone trapper has clones as a shield.
I´m leveling now a witch as elemental and compare the two chars in dried lake with same gem level. But it feels that the damage is almost the same until now.

In youtube is a poison cloner (without traps in lvl14 map= and damage looks good with only a few clones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjdVYF50jqs

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tobiazl wrote:

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174nana wrote:

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tobiazl wrote:

I'm with Shadow Saboteur in dried Lake with gem Level 14 and clear Speed is good for now.

If I would go with chaos and poison I would choose occultist with -25% chaos resi and 3 curses.
Temp Chain, Proj Weakness, Vulner.

Sadly I cannot calculate the poison damage.

But your arguments are good as well. Ele Sounds very good. :-)

Sounds like a reasonable run.

Isn't it quite dangerous to be near enemies with your clones to make sure your tri blasphemy curse reaches them or do you use curse on hit?

I don´t think that it is more dangerous. My fire trapper uses blasphemy too, and it works good. The clone trapper has clones as a shield.
I´m leveling now a witch as elemental and compare the two chars in dried lake with same gem level. But it feels that the damage is almost the same until now.

In youtube is a poison cloner (without traps in lvl14 map= and damage looks good with only a few clones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjdVYF50jqs

Had no idea that the Chaos damage + Poison does that much damage for the clones at level 19. I tested it a bit with lower level gems and it was quite bad. Gonna retest with higher level gems.

The thing I notice with 2 clones at a time, he requires GMP to get a decent clear speed and GMP lowers the damage significantly on single targets. Also, the clones die fairly easily even to blue packs.

But all in all, it looks quite interesting and definitely plausible as a standard cloner.

Compared to trapper build:

GMP is almost the same less damage as cluster trap.
So he has one more supportgem but only a couple of clones.

In addition is poison stacking and with a lot of clones a lot
poison stacks. I'm very exited to compare poison with ele build.

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tobiazl wrote:

Compared to trapper build:

GMP is almost the same less damage as cluster trap.
So he has one more supportgem but only a couple of clones.

In addition is poison stacking and with a lot of clones a lot
poison stacks. I'm very exited to compare poison with ele build.

Yup, it kinda ends up more or less the same. I just prefer to have a horde of clones :D

The thing about Poison support gem, it only applies poison on the physical and chaos damage, kinda wasting the elemental damage from the auras you provide to them.

"The Poison gem deals 10% of a hit's combined chaos and physical damage as chaos damage per second, and lasts 2 seconds by default."

Need to test if using 2 gem slots for Poison and Chaos Damage is worth replacing other hard hitting projectile or minion support gems, considering it is 5 Link.

Elemental: Mirror Arrow + Trap + Cluster Trap + Minion Damage + Slower Projectile/ Weapon Elemental

Poison: Mirror Arrow + Trap + Cluster Trap + Poison + Added Chaos

Did some quick test with 2 Mirror/Blink Arrow setup using only 5 Link on Dried Lake's Voll.

Click to view the gifs:

Blink Arrow + Trap + Cluster Trap + Minion Damage + Weapon Elemental


Mirror Arrow + Trap + Cluster Trap + Poison + Added Chaos


Both versions seem to kill Voll quickly and easily.

What I feel is that the elemental damage clones will scale better late game from the auras and the poison+chaos hitting a roadblock once the gems hit level 20.

Needs to be fully tested once Prophecy is out.

Oh thank you for testung. I have to watch it after work.

But for my planned I would use 3 support curses and the -25% chaos resi because I would use Occultist. I think that it makes both builds comparable strong.

Both variants have their downsides and advantages.

If the poison is in the same damage leage I would prefer it. I like the temp chain and I would like to go withouz curse shoot between traps. And gearing is a little bit better too, no alpha or aura chest necessary.