RANGER FACEBREAKER - CRIT

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SilverXa wrote:

Was considering various ways to deal with reflect on this character, since during Legacy I pretty much one shot myself on random reflect rares and because I'm too blind (lazy) to be able to see reflect mob rare effects and take special care for reflect mobs.

Not too sure on how reflect proof this build is cause I'm not too sure on how the math works on reflect. Like if i hit for 250k a hit and then the mob reflects 15% phys, I'm taking 37k dmg and I don't see myself surviving that in any way, but I'm pretty sure there's something I'm missing so :|
Anyways, first thing I actually thought about was using Scion with slayer/raider or slayer/assassin since you have guaranteed frenzy charge generation on bosses w/ frenzy and with a similar tree i reached like ~80-85% percent of the original dps with a similar tree for shaper dps with slayer/raider. I think i had ~90% of the original dps with assassin notable using the current facebreakers, unless I'm missing setting. Feels like I should have lower but I had crazy high crit chance in PoB so maybe that's why. Though I ended up using almost all of the leftover passive points in the PoB you gave me. Though the build might feel quite different compared to the original build's Bruce Lee level fisting, which I'm still trying to keep. The build becomes even more crit focused, though whether or not that's a good thing or a bad thing, idk. Still wasn't able to add more life to the build which I feel might be very inconvenient since Izaro one shots us if he gets lucky iirc.

But then I thought about Yugul notable which gives 25% reduced(i think it's reduced?) reflected dmg taken, and then just using a 4l infernal blow mapping setup, which given this builds insane dps should hopefully(?) again not too experienced in reflect dmg calculations, should be fine for mapping and surviving that random 1 reflect rare with vaal pact? I know some people said vaal pact should be enough to mitigate phys reflect but again, not too sure on what they say. Might be able to run a phys reflect map with infernal blow since infernal blow is 50% converted to fire which layered with Yugul's pantheon, might be enough? Not too sure on inferno blow's single target dmg but also not confident enough to straight up attack reflect map with frenzy. But then you run into the problem of ele reflect which could possibly kill you with the inferno blow explosion? Not sure if the explosion can be reflected or not.

Again, these are all just some theoretical ideas based on a possibly grossly overestimated dmg of phys reflect. I know reflect can get dodged (not sure if it can be evaded, pretty sure no) with capped dodge you could technically sustain hitting reflect mobs with frenzy assuming that you have enough leech to not instagib yourself and you don't get unlucky enough to not dodge reflect like 4x in a row although in theory a cwdt immortal call set up should prevent that from happening. Just trying to reduce the weaknesses of this build cause I really like how this build feels in general, but this might also just be me being retarded. :|

On a side note: considered switching the build to slayer because gets impact which means free melee splash so pretty much running a 5l/7l set up, and then you get the added survivability of slayer leech and reflect notables, but not sure if I can achieve high enough dmg with slayer since slayer ascendancies don't have any single target scaling except for that 20% more multi on kill which doesn't work for bosses which don't summon adds :|. Also managed to get doryani's touch to ~600k shaper with conc effect and flasks. Not sure if that's high enough. Still trying out new pathes. Resists get easier since you can replace meginords with doryani's invitation and get similar/better damage. Could use a kaom's as defensive chestpiece, though that would be really expensive. Not sure what else to put on the chest. Could set up a comk shield charge shock nova that i saw on a berserker build. Also could probably just put an ancenstral warchief there.

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SilverXa wrote:

Yeah I could definitely put the full frenzy set up with ruthless on a belly and then try Doryani's touch for only aoe clear. Doryani's touch can't be support by multistrike unfortunately and it has a -30% less attack speed innate mod which makes optimizing it extremely difficult. It's possible to try to scale it as non crit to try and to take advantage of the 250% damage effectiveness, but afaik noncrit doesn't scale nearly as far as crit into the lategame. Also not sure how I would go about making a noncrit doryani's build. Doryani's just a lot harder to scale since it's bulk damage is added lightning and that means rigwald's curse isn't nearly as effective since the claw nodes largely scale physical damage.


Also skeleton slayer tree of this build: https://pastebin.com/JjtD4sa4

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SilverXa wrote:

One thing I am considering is some CoC action to take advantage of both the spell and attack added lightning. Though I have no clue which spell to take. Maybe arc or shock nova?

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Hmm, I feel it won't add much DPS for us. Mind linking your version of the Doryani build?

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7. Shock: this is not reflected in the tooltip, but P2L + Crit gives me shocks for a 1.5x more multiplier on all my damage.

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aaronsan wrote:

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7. Shock: this is not reflected in the tooltip, but P2L + Crit gives me shocks for a 1.5x more multiplier on all my damage.

Apologies if you covered this before but at least it will be quick. I don't see you using P2L in your 6L on the main guide post. Do you still use shock? P2L? What do you link in your 6L if you still use P2L? (in other words, what comes out of your 6L)?

Great guide! Thanks! I love the leveling the most on FB ever since shield charge was allowed unarmed XD will switch to flame dash and frenzy late game...will be sad to see shield charge go.