[3.5] Say_Ten's Melee Shadow - Murder Everything Cheaply

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sef239 wrote:
Just want to say that I am new to the game and am using your build in SSF HC, and its fun so far but I keep dying.
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What level are you? What stage of the game are you at? Look for the standard stuff. Resistances/Life. A stibnite/jade flask will help with evasion of attacks too
reee this league :(
Is it just me, or is the ~85 point leveling tree example not actually showing the spec into claws even tho it mentions it? Just wondering if it's worth pulling the points I put into Born to Fight, Heart of the Warrior, and Warrior's Blood to start speccing into claws? Thanks for any input.
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aggrophobik wrote:
Is it just me, or is the ~85 point leveling tree example not actually showing the spec into claws even tho it mentions it? Just wondering if it's worth pulling the points I put into Born to Fight, Heart of the Warrior, and Warrior's Blood to start speccing into claws? Thanks for any input.


Yes I just checked the 85 leveling tree and it's wonky looking. It's missing 10-20 skill points at least from what I can tell, which would be allocated already into most of the claw nodes. If you skip claw nodes to get early start on the far left side of the tree, skip the more minor nodes and not the bigger ones like Claws of Magpie and Soul Raker.

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Really enjoying this build :).

2 Questions tho.

1. Which gems should i get to 20% Quality first?

2. Could you take a look at my Char and tell me what needs to be upgraded the most? (was thinking about saving for Taste of hate but i'm not quite sure.)

(using the bisco's only because it was a lucky chance. Got another DPS amulet which i use for harder stuff)

Thanks!


1. If you have the money, I would take care of all gems linked to Dual Strike, starting with any gems that give attack speed from bonus quality. Then probably Whirling Blades / Faster attacks for more mobility. If lower on money, maybe just take care of Whirling Blades setup first to zip around. Anything past that kind of depends on your personal setup: higher quality curses could be nice or unneccesary depending on which ones you have, etc.


2. Taste of Hate would be good, until then I'd personally run another defensive flask instead of quicksilver. Or if you're greedy an Onslaught flask.


As far as gear goes, I'd get at least 1 unset ring to run blood rage, it's a huge improvement imo later in the game since you get attack speed and frenzy charges fast with minor penalty. If you can get 2 and also run Vaal Haste, that's pretty sick too. Just 1 for blood rage is fine but I'd def aim for it. In general, some of your gear could aim for 5-10% more of each resistance (the stuff currently at 25-30% res). If you have high enough res all around without having to get any crafted or having to run tri-res on gear slots you might prefer dual-res (belt, some rings), you open up some pretty nice mods.


Take belt: instead of tri-res, you could have dual-res both around 40%, and also have increased flask duration. Then tri-res boots all 30-35% or higher prob. I would start with boots first, since it would be a straight forward upgrade and will make calculating res much easier for other gear changes. Cheap solution would be crafting fire res onto your current boots, you could buy better ones but it can get pricey since those have decent rolls already.


After boots I'd probably take a look at rings. I'd take off both and see what res you need to fix and by how much. With fire res crafted onto boots or new boots with tri-res, this becomes easier to solve. You might have to give up some flat damage on rings in the process but you will hopefully gain blood rage and would make glove / belt improvements also way easier to account for.



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what abt reflect dmg ??
what abt reflect enermy ??
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trumchuong90 wrote:
what abt reflect enermy ??


Element reflect is pretty easy, you simply turn off hatred and heralds (and I guess make sure you don't have added fire / random element sources). Physical reflect is a bit trickier and I'm not sure how well this manages even with the ascendancy buff. I haven't taken the time to try and run any P reflect, but I may run a diamond flask and see if it's doable.
Last edited by _DMG_ on Mar 12, 2018, 11:09:33 PM
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_DMG_ wrote:
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trumchuong90 wrote:
what abt reflect enermy ??


Element reflect is pretty easy, you simply turn off hatred and heralds (and I guess make sure you don't have added fire / random element sources). Physical reflect is a bit trickier and I'm not sure how well this manages even with the ascendancy buff. I haven't taken the time to try and run any P reflect, but I may run a diamond flask and see if it's doable.


Run the reduced reflect pantheon (yugul) and also the new ascendancy buff does work well. My damage isn’t insane yet but I have come close to dying to reflect

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