[3.5] Say_Ten's Melee Shadow - Murder Everything Cheaply

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_DMG_ wrote:

I think it clears fine, and should clear even better after ascendancy buffs. Although my own guy near the end was getting close to decked out, sans insane weps, so he had a great time. If you're lazy on upgrading gear or aiming for truly decent damage mods, you may fall short compared to other builds (although less so in 3.2, class buffs are bueno)

Enjoying this build again so far. I heavily miss gg ez strong abyss gear that flooded the market and made building cheaper but the class itself feels way better.

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murilomuka wrote:

I'm having a blast with this build so far (Act 9). It really murder everything, thrash mobs can't even move, bosses are melted pretty quickly and I got lucky, dropped a SIN'S REBIRTH in act 5, so my DPS skyrocketed.

Looking forward to mapping!

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Say_Ten wrote:

yes, i used to lab race with this build and do it in 6 minutes. whirling blades is insane and now we have the Opportunist ascendancy buffs.

since they made the lab a lot better (and easier with the all-positive darkshrine thing), i now will do full clears and find that it's always worth my time.

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Satej wrote:

Hello Say_Ten, I've decided to go with your build this league, I am currently 72, so the minimum level of the build, I have capped res but only 3.4k life. I am dying on tier5-7 maps at lvl 72, is it because of my level (therefore not enough %life nodes yet) or is it my passive tree? Thanks in advance and sorry for sucking !

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Say_Ten wrote:

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Satej wrote:

Hello Say_Ten, I've decided to go with your build this league, I am currently 72, so the minimum level of the build, I have capped res but only 3.4k life. I am dying on tier5-7 maps at lvl 72, is it because of my level (therefore not enough %life nodes yet) or is it my passive tree? Thanks in advance and sorry for sucking !

hey pal. your tree IS fucked up (but your gear is very good for this early in the league).

look at my passive skill tree and try to follow that or the leveling tree examples. connect to the claw wheel through the life nodes near the top of it. this will let you ditch all those useless DEX nodes underneath it. you can also ditch the two nodes with evasion and ES (and the big one has resist all) if you're overcapped and fine with that. make your way over to the marauder area and get more life.

the reason you're dying is probably one or more of the following:

1) you're trying to Dual Strike in packs without having Might and Influence (unique required passive tree jewel) in your tree...so you are getting life on hit from a single enemy vs all of those motherfuckers

2) you're not keeping fortify up and using your flasks in packs

3) your life is a little low, due to your passive tree selections and your level

You went for all the offense first so you could also refund some claw nodes to grab more life and life regen if you want.

Let me know if you're still having trouble.

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Satej wrote:

Thanks for the swift reply, I've been playing wrong yesterday (Literally did not use kiara got into stun and died 4 times in a tier 5)
I've been using flasks properly while whrling through mobs every 5 sec and onjly using lightning strike on huge packs and going in for dual strike on high hp mobs today so far and it's going fine, did not die at all.

I've changed 6 useless dex skill nodes to further advance into marauder health nodes like you did.

I've seen you had told on the first page of guide to use Alira, I've swapped to Alira, wondering if Alira is still the case or do we go for +2 Skill passives?

Thanks so much again for caring !

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Say_Ten wrote:

Make sure you get Might & Influence. You're not doing splash damage without it and even though you only need DS for "single target", usually you will get a few monsters on you, randomly. plus when you need to absolutely destroy shit in the middle of the pack (IE: abysses, strongboxes, dense packs), you will need that splash damage to get your life back and DS does a lot more damage than LS the way we have it set up. LS does a lot of damage but without pierce it's tough to take out packs efficiency unless you are one-shotting everything.

again, you can respec the two points that got you to Nullification and take the jewel socket next to the Raider and put M&I in there. you will notice a huge difference when using DS.