Looking for HLD Advice

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Rupenus wrote:
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lapiz wrote:
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MullaXul wrote:

Can we all stop bull shitting people into thinking EA destroys worlds on contact? It's a far cry from what other skills do in way less hits. You can avoid walls pretty well, you can see the stacks, you can play ranged versus it. It requires several layers of aoe explosions to down people. Sure the current EA meta of wall spraying is retarded and it would be a cooler skill if it required true aiming/stacking but lets be real it's not an instant win button like other skills. Spark controls space and kills better overall in a more unavoidable fashion. Lightning arrow totally trumps EA in every aspect. Crit spells, blast rain etc..etc.. all kill faster in fewer hits from anywhere on the screen EA can.


A fully capped and properly built EA with a good swap item setup wont be beaten in a bo7 by anything at the moment. Are you actually implying something else?

There really arent many chars like that. None of them have participated the tournaments at the moment for an example.


i cant understand why you guys undergrading libritannia so much. libritannia's build is almost perfect as it gets. as EA, her tree is all about having all life % nodes and getting all the jewel nodes from tree. she had like 12 jewel slots last time i checked. Thats a brilliant idea, because nothing benefits EA better than jewels. While EA's secondary damage beeing no spell / no projectile there are no nodes which benefits secondary damage much. so, having a tree just to get all possible jewel nods is a brilliant idea. fire/area% is what EA needs. she has the highest EA damage by far, and none of us can reach such dps, i know she paid 20-40ex per jewel. most of EA players fail to be like her, because they still dont know how can they get maximum benefit from passive tree.

Libritania's lvl 21 Cwdt + Enfeeble + TC is no joke either. Her temporal chains is really strong, after 1-2 matches when you figure out her setups, you can start to handle them.

also, lets talk about her micro. tempallo and others were playing EA as area control, locking down the opponent to a point etc. libritannia is the one who used EA agressively, and she is the one who initiates first in battles.(thanks to leg kaoms ofc) she somehow, stacks fuses to grounds very effectively, she knows points where fuses get stacked to the ground.

her poison arrow weapon swap, is really effective strategy to deplete opponents flask charges, thats how she beats lapiz in battles. on last duels, lapiz won the first two, libritannia won the hole rest with just depleting his flask charges. Her movespeed is highest in the game, and she gets max benefit from poison arrow thanks to that.

I know you guys, like to masturbate how good Mies was, lvl 20/23 TC and 2-3 smoke mine tricks are good, i give you that, but all the things above are thoughtful too.

Libritannia's flask setups are not good as she thinks, molten shell is totally useless, going BM is not a good idea imho.(thats sth im not sure) the rest is pretty good. (i'd use TC on hit rare gloves if i were her)

and, yeah, ere comes the drama, with my build, i dont know about ascendancy, i can handle every Explosive arrow, my char was not even specced for EA while i was playing vs EA. its surprising that cwdt + flame dash made EA matchups for me this easy.

you'll say conversion talismans. the thing i learned from starcraft 2 is, the offense always wins. there is no 100% perfect prediction. defense relies on predictng all incoming dangers with no flaws. when i switch to cold, and if the opponent cant predict that, its over.

my base damage is 11000-23200 sth like that, accuracy 4400, crit multi 630 or sth like that. it takes 1 or 2 shot to kill someone max. and

actually, hatred + call of the brotherhood + cold pen has better dps than, pure light + mirrored rings :)

there is no 100% perfect prediction, at the beginning of the round, i can switch to half cold / half phys; pure light; pure cold; half lightning/half phys... i wonder how someone can predict all of this situations and use proper talisman for it. half phys/half ele situations lower my dps only, my dps is much more than its needed, so no problems. each round i can change my setup to sth different cause it takes just 1 gem + 2 ring swap. or i can buy a torment mark 510 pdps bow for proper half phys / half ele colors and use that as swap. or i can rely my build to burning arrow mines. there are many ways to handle talismans.

i defended libritannia here, cause she started using EA very agressively thanks to additiona of jewels of the gmae, thats her invention about EA imho. (mies was using EA agressively too but EA's base damage was not fucked like this back in those days) while all the PvP pros tailoring well detailed builds with brilliant ideas, she come up with a simple idea. maximize dps - maximize tankiness, deplete opponents flask charges and yolo. thats why people are so jealous about her imho and always downgrading. her strategy is simple, not 'brilliant' and effective. but in the end, simplicity is brilliant alone.

and my other point in short, for light damage, i'd say talismans are not a good option.



People used EA aggressively before Lib even thought about PvPing. I had it as an offhand for years along with burning arrow and flammability so I could ignite ES users to prevent recharging. I'd go in as melee and chase with bow, EA/burning arrow/puncture.

Mies...don't think for a second I'd say that guy was good.

Lib plays a dirty exploit game man, all there is to it. Things like cwdt flame dash for example are so cheese it discredits anything the guy could possibly do in PvP in my book. Auto movement + lazy ass auto cursing + EA is just a compounded pile of lame clown PvP. Though nothing against him/her personally because "almost" everyone is doing these things. EA itself is fine I'll defend it all day when compared to a few other skills. But I'll also say what I've always said, I want it to have its damage values swapped between target stacking and wall stacking so it takes skill to play. Perhaps maybe you mis-read what I was writing or something I dunno, but I could careless about Lib and I think EA is ok. If that is really your "base" x-x damage for your LA, then that's just wrong on so many levels....that much base + 600% multiplier, GGG hello *points.
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Last edited by MullaXul#2277 on Feb 23, 2016, 5:11:29 PM
i was talking to lapiz mostly.
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