THOR'S RAINBOWNUKE: off to the Marauder forum

Before I forget and while it's fresh in my mind, going to list my thoughts as of right now on what I think will be decent Ascendancy picks for this particular build. Bear in mind this is all subject to change and nothing is set in stone and I'm not necessarily looking for what will be the best of the best. Also, the order I list them in isn't in any way indicative of how I would personally rank them from least to greatest, or vice-versa. Here are some of my picks that I want to try and think will work out well:


1. Champion



2. Juggernaut



3. Occultist



4. Elementalist



5. Pathfinder



All right, those are some of my thoughts for now, and maybe that'll also stir the pot for others and get their creative juices going. :)

Tanakeah which version you're going to do first? I'm doing what I've posted a page back, that is: Crit Juggernaut fire version and Low life RT Berserker. I can post my impressions here.


EDIT:


Here's low life Elementalist:


Tree:
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Gear:
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Can run PoL + PoF + PoI empowered to lvl 23 and Wrath + Haste + Discipline + lvl 3 enl and WM on Blasphemy with Conqueror's Efficiency jewel.


Build highlights:
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(stats with 2 golems up)

+ 7k+ EHP (ES)
+ 5.3+ aps molten
+ 4/4 charges
+ 17k per Discharge with Life leech gem (temporaly dmg increase not counted in)
+ 88/80/89 resitances flasked (82/80/83 unflasked)
+ 100% chance to hit
+ fortify
+ 4.4k es leech/s vs Boss*

(60% curse effectiveness counted in, with life leech gem, no VoV)


It seems that Elementalist can match up in damage with low life Zerke and its 40% more multiplier. All thx to that huge 130% ele increase from passive tree with 2 golems up.

Problems: babysitting golems, no elemental penetration gem, life leech instead or healing will be cripled.

Overall I think that Elementalist as low life is not the best option. It lacks "build in" leeching and looses dmg this way. Some "walk arounds" maybe done to fix this (like CWDT + Ele weakness) but other 2 builds that I've posted page back doesnt need to do that and they are able to dish out similiar if not better dmg.



Lets now compare them all with simplified view:
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1) Life armor Crit Juggernaut fire focus:

+ 5.1k+ EHP (life)
+ 145k DPS single target (with ele penetration gem)
+ ~90% phys dmg reduction
+ 93/79/92 resistances
+ Fortify
+ 93% accuracy
+ Surgeons flasks
+ Cannot be frozen
+ 7.4k life gained/s vs Boss


2) Low life RT Berserker:

+ 6.9k+ EHP (ES, 10% increased dmg taken not counted in)
+ 141k DPS single target (with ele penetration gem)
+ ~10% phys dmg reduction
+ 88/81/89 resistances
+ Fortify
+ 100% accuracy
+ 3.1k es leech/s vs Boss (without VoV)


3) Low life RT Elementalist:
(with 2 golems up)

+ 7k+ EHP (ES)
+ 137k DPS single target (without ele penetration gem)
+ ~10% phys dmg reduction
+ 88/80/89 resitances
+ Fortify
+ 100% accuracy
+ 4.4k es leech/s vs Boss (without VoV)


Note: DPS and leeching counted using legacy Mjolner and assuming only 2 additional projectiles from Molten Strike will hit same target (so this is minimum you will get - in reality this goes much higher). For non legacy aka "new" Mjolner use exactly 60% of those values (life crit version included).

I'm actually trying the LL zerker to see if it's viable with the upcoming 2.3

Equip:



Tree:



Auras are: Wrath, haste, PoF, PoL, AA, discipline, plus warlord mark & ele weakness with blasphemy.
Damage with 4/4 charges is 25k without auras and at full life, 37k full buff and lowlife
I'm actually sitting at 5.3 aps, i think i could push it up to about 6 with some good jewel investment, and have a fair amount of 7700 ES, with room for improvements.
The 6 offcolour shavronne is handy to socked both molten strike and lightning strike linked with GMP, faster atk, multistrike, 6th slot can be either LGoH if you don't have it on jewels or fortify, to have perma fortify. Overall, it's a quite balanced, the only downside is that ele reflect maps or no leech maps are absolutely a no-go



5/5 charges maybe is a little overkill, tho

Looks good. Str is just enough for your gear, might not be enough for most players though.

From my calculations: 4/4 charges = 25k per Discharge, 5/5 charges fully buffed = 33k per Discharge.

This is all with CD, ele weakness not counted in.

4/4 charges with LPen is 17k per Discharge which is on pair with my tree. I think going with LPen is a bit less dmg but its safer vs reflect.

You should drop life gain on hit and place fortify instead. Add at least 2x 3 life gain on hit jools and you are good to go.

I personally would rearange aura setups this way that both lvl 21 PoL + PoF would be empowered to lvl 23. You have +1 max light res from tree and AA for additional fire dmg reduction. So both elemental dmg reductions will work similar. Reflect should not be a problem with LPen gem, if it is that for reflect maps switch for Saffels Frame.

EDIT: Im going crit Juggernaut fire focus first, than low life Zerker.

Probably going after the non-RT, life Juggernaut version first. I've used Champion before and that won't change too much, but I definitely want to try this one, especially with Immortal Call and seeing if I can get it to be manually cast and thus have complete control over it. Will likely be going Lightning Strike as my main attack and able to switch with Molten Strike for single target.

Yep. If they dont nerf it just before 2.3 release than it will be the best option.

I've just rechecked how much accuracy I have on current crit Juggernaut with very similar passive tree: 3.3k without any additional accuracy from gear (just Romiras). It can go up to 4k easilly with secound ~+350 acc ring, meaning "free" 40 increased attack speed.

hello and welcome, 7 aps mjolner :D

but the max endurance juggernaut passive sounds so nice i fear they will nerf it just before 2.3 release

Just thought I'd drop in and say thanks for maintaining this build. I've always played life-based Mjolner, but after the flask nerfs I took a break for a while and then decided to try out low life.

I'm level 93 now and having a blast. This is a really fun build. A few things I did differently from this build.

• I use Intuitive Leap in the socket west of Templar. this lets me get Faith and Steel (10% ES, 8% allres), Overcharge (+1 power charge), Devotion (3% aura effect, +20 strength), and Endurance (+1 endurance charge). This probably isn't optimal at level 100, but it's been working well from 90 to 93.
• I only have 1 good piece of ES gear, so I took Occultist instead of Champion. This makes stats harder, but it's cheaper to get stats on gear than great ES rolls.
• I use an Elreon Ring with attack speed. This lets me use a single Life Gain on Hit jewel instead of requiring 3 of them. I've used the extra freedom to enable Intuitive Leap and to use a triple attack speed jewel. The extra attack speed makes a huge difference.
• I finally splurged and made myself poor by buying a Headhunter. It's not required, but (a) its high stats help with gearing, and (b) it's a lot of fun.

Stats:

• 25k dmg/discharge with 4 power and 4 endurance charges (no HH mods)
• 6837 ES (pretty low, I know)
• 260 unreserved life
• 13 mana per molten strike
• 5.75 attacks per second (6.9/sec with Vaal Haste)
• 80(93) / 79(114) / 81(141) / -38 res in merciless with no charges (yes, a bit unbalanced)

Have you all seen the new uniq jools and thinking what I'm thinking? :)

Edit: i actually tried to come up with a build who relies on new grand jewels, and atm i'm not so sure that they could be worth for this variation of mjolner