Revealing the Secrets - LA

Ya only the pierce nodes and iron grip with a glyph Mark (not even brood twine)

https://youtu.be/gp88ZbkJHmA

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Brian_GGG wrote:

Heya,

I've had to remove quite a few posts from this thread. It's cool to have a heated discussion around builds, but as soon as you start talking about the people making the builds, you start to get into dangerous territory.

Save the PVP for in game, and not so much the forums. :) If you need a reminder on our Code of Conduct, you can find them here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1457463

STFU GGG Brian. Don't be a PUSSY. That's what makes our PVP community great. At least let us vent if you are doing JACK SHIT to advance PVP. Remember, it's not harassment if it's the truth.

Snazzy

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wadevice wrote:

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Brian_GGG wrote:

Heya,

I've had to remove quite a few posts from this thread. It's cool to have a heated discussion around builds, but as soon as you start talking about the people making the builds, you start to get into dangerous territory.

Save the PVP for in game, and not so much the forums. :) If you need a reminder on our Code of Conduct, you can find them here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1457463

STFU GGG Brian. Don't be a PUSSY. That's what makes our PVP community great. At least let us vent if you are doing JACK SHIT to advance PVP. Remember, it's not harassment if it's the truth.

Snazzy

Solid post

double post

This is all my fault.
Sorry, Rup.

















(worth it)

Then pay for your sins.
















(beg)

Fanon, you think its worth it to design a unique around LA at this point?

With all the jealous whinery over frostwall interactions, why doesn't GGG give a definitive answer moving forward.

The current LA is a dead-man-walking build.
I know you mentioned other skills and meta shifting, but I want to design something that will keep LA at a middleground.

Some ideas:
1) a unique that converts lightning to fire
2) leech flask charges on crit instead of health
3) a quiver that gives a multistrike ability to bow skills (e.g. Pledge of hands for bows).

Lol bows don't need any more offensive help man, and you can already convert light to cold. If bows needed something it'd be defensive.

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Castablanca wrote:

Fanon, you think its worth it to design a unique around LA at this point?

With all the jealous whinery over frostwall interactions, why doesn't GGG give a definitive answer moving forward.

The current LA is a dead-man-walking build.
I know you mentioned other skills and meta shifting, but I want to design something that will keep LA at a middleground.

Some ideas:
1) a unique that converts lightning to fire
2) leech flask charges on crit instead of health
3) a quiver that gives a multistrike ability to bow skills (e.g. Pledge of hands for bows).

The element itself isn't the strength behind LA. So converting it to cold/fire isn't going to bring it back from the grave if it were to get heavily nerfed. It's all in the mechanics of the skill and crit, that's the problem with every "broken" aspect of PvP or this game. It's never the damage type it's in the crit, mechanics and lack of effort to de-bug/re-write how things interact on GGG's part.

When every single person you see running an AoE overlap or secondary damage build concentrates primarily on spamming 2-3 frost walls first then holding down attack....think it's clear cut. There's literally no effort put anywhere else besides the question "did I win, or did I lose". Anyone of these things doing absurd amounts of damage without a frostwall is doing so because of crit multiplier. Explosive arrow itself is just overlap damage, pound for pound, arrow for arrow it's weaker then most other skills. It literally requires you to stack multiple arrows to an area to chain aoe for what seems like instantaneous kills but really it's like cyclone used to be...very fast multiple hits. LA and other skills literally kill in true 1 arrow,1 attack fashion.

the problem of LA having is lacking an answer to 150+ MS and rumi flask + cwdt flame dash initiations of pathfinder.

solutions:

+very high attack speed, to be able to go through rumi flask block. you need high attack speed to be able to have enough time and luck to have a shot which goes through 75 block.
+decree of winter
+conversion amulet + anti shock flasks.
+high HP pool, 8k-9k life, 12k ES at least
+lowering the dps would make things vs casters really hard. casters are mostly ez to deal with, but because we outdps them / outrange them. losing this upper hand is not cool.
+1-3-5-7 arrows to be able to target them


HoT hits like 5k-6k per hit. other than that LA is solid vs casters, melee, EA and all other stuff.