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robmafia wrote:

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Rupenus wrote:

but we have races

...we do?

oh we don't? i haven't been around for a while you know i don't know.

well i'll just log in to poe for ASMR purposes, the ambient sounds got improved a lot -offtopic pvp topic but let me admit that- other than that... ah i don't know.

WOW alot of bitter ppl here now days. Great conversation I now feel like I can change the world lol.

Negative ppl lol..

Oh Evilest left sarn?? Did sarn a favor lol. On other notes. We cant get back to gear crafting. I didnt mean to spark this Rant vs PVP.

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ShinFuuma wrote:

An egg actually came before the chicken.

Indeed, Dinosaurs existed millions of years prior to any species of bird.

Typical white supremicist "only vertebrates" mentality. Invertebrates were laying eggs terristally before vertebrates even left the sea.

Which also means the crab came before the spider. Or, the egg came before the mygalomorphae.

I will pvp till the end but I do gotta admit its pretty boring right now XD. I would blame the meta but even then I still think league seperation is dividing the community too much and causing more damage.

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Players pvp leagues with rules would be the only way but we all have our own ideas about what is broken or not so it will never happen in poe unless some rich bastard decide to make his own balanced pvp league and throw exalts to participants or winners.

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ShinFuuma wrote:

Which also means the crab came before the spider. Or, the egg came before the mygalomorphae.

Oldest unambiguous crab dates back to the late Jurassic (Schweitzer & Feldmann, 2010) with the more ambiguous crab like organisms going as far back as the early Carboniferous are on record (Schram & Mapes, 1984). That is 163mya-145mya and potentially 355mya-325mya.

Spiders of unambiguous nature go back as far as the late Carboniferous with the glorious old gods known as the Mesothelae (Vollrath & Selden, 2007) and the new gods, the Araneomorphs and the Mygalomorphs appearing in the Triassic (Selden, et al., 1999; Selden, et al., 2009). The first exclusively terrestrial arachnid made its appearance in the Silurian , the Palaeotarbus jerami (Dunlop, 1996). In other words that are not words but numbers, 300mya, 250mya-200mya and starting out around 440mya-420mya

I'll give you crustaceans as a whole, which folks are quite comfortable with placing the appearance of in the mid-Cambrian (Briggs, 1978). Versus Chelicerates which are only suspected late-Cambrian and fossil evidence only puts them with "certainty" in the Ordovician (Rudkin, et al., 2008) but then you have to explain to me how crustaceans got such a head start and still didn't make endgame apex predator like Pentecopterus decorahensis (Lamsdell, et al., 2015).

TL;DR: Chelicerates first apex predators > Crustaceans first apex prey items/fucking nerds.

References:

1. Schweitzer, C. E., & Feldmann, R. M. (2010). The oldest Brachyura (Decapoda: Homolodromioidea: Glaessneropsoidea) known to date (Jurassic). Journal of Crustacean Biology, 30(2), 251-256.

2. Schram, F. R., & Mapes, R. H. (1984). Imocaris tuberculata, n. gen., n. sp.(Crustacea: Decapoda) from the upper Mississippian Imo Formation, Arkansas. San Diego society of natural history.

3. Vollrath, F., & Selden, P. (2007). The role of behavior in the evolution of spiders, silks, and webs. Annual Review of Ecology, Evolution, and Systematics, 38.
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4. Selden, P. A., Anderson, J. M., Anderson, H. M., & Fraser, N. C. (1999). Fossil araneomorph spiders from the Triassic of South Africa and Virginia. Journal of Arachnology, 401-414.

5. Selden, P. A., Anderson, H. M., & Anderson, J. M. (2009). A review of the fossil record of spiders (Araneae) with special reference to Africa, and description of a new specimen from the Triassic Molteno Formation of South Africa. African Invertebrates, 50(1), 105-116.

6. Dunlop, J. A. (1996). A trigonotarbid arachnid from the Upper Silurian of Shropshire. Palaeontology, 39(3), 605-614.

7. Briggs, D. E. (1978). The morphology, mode of life, and affinities of Canadaspis perfecta (Crustacea: Phyllocarida), Middle Cambrian, Burgess Shale, British Columbia. Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London. Series B, Biological Sciences, 439-487.

8. Rudkin, D. M., Young, G. A., & Nowlan, G. S. (2008). The oldest horseshoe crab: a new Xiphosurid from Late Ordovician Konservat‐Lagerstätten Deposits, Manitoba, Canada. Palaeontology, 51(1), 1-9.

9. Lamsdell, J. C., Briggs, D. E., Liu, H. P., Witzke, B. J., & McKay, R. M. (2015). The oldest described eurypterid: a giant Middle Ordovician (Darriwilian) megalograptid from the Winneshiek Lagerstätte of Iowa. BMC evolutionary biology, 15(1), 169.

now even forum pvp is broken :( myga y u use egg build

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Márkusz wrote:

now even forum pvp is broken :( myga y u use egg build

I like Audio inputs idea, we should mass delete our posts... except mine. Beer with me, we change pvp from a small population of nutters to literally one insane person rambling to himself (Little do these fools realize that as the only person on the forum pvp ladder, I default to top ladder).