Frost Blades
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Read some feedback in this thread and I agree with parts about clunky melee initial targeting(hello closed beta 2013!) and AoE lacking.
But even with all these flaws I made it work. Check out my guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1324942 The main problem is that by default FB require either fork or chain linked. 4 targets vs all screen coverage with reave is not fair at all. So why not give it built-in chaining/forking? |
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" I prefer pierce with it, so it doesn't take the hit from reduced damage, and also because chain reduces all damage, even the initial hit, even with the base 3 projectiles it can clear a lot while positioned right, with LMP It could most likely clear a room. |
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" You got 100% pierce chance? I tested all possible projectile based supports. Chain and fork are on top. I mean why not to give projectiles 50-70% damage effectiveness, but add chain 2 times? It will be fair. No cutting melee part like lightning strike. But okish aoe at the same time. At current state skill feels like not finished. Last edited by MCSMvsME#0476 on Jul 31, 2015, 2:18:20 PM
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" You can get it pretty easily with shadow, 50% from gem, 40% from the projectile damage/pierce ring near shadow start (the one that has the piercing shots notable) 90% is plenty enough to make it work right, and you could get 100% with the unique quest reward jewel with damage/pierce. |
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semi related, there's around 200% pierce chance from multiple methods: support gem, curse (projectile weakness), passive tree (mentioned above), uniques.
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" I feel the 14 weapon range makes up for that. With reave you need to go into melee for your first few stacks. Only then do you get all screen coverage, for a few seconds. And quite possibly you linked AoE to Reave to achieve that. Last edited by Toverkol#3305 on Aug 1, 2015, 10:34:58 AM
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" Yeah you are right seems kinda balanced. I'm ok with current state of FB, maybe build-in chaining or forking will be too much. But still 4 targets by default is real downside which you cover with 1 gem slot. Cyclone and reave with no links do the same job much better. |
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" I'm using FB as main AOE, and then cyclone if I get surrounded to fill the lack the short range AOE that FB has ... working nicely so far. Chain really is a nice support on FB so far also, really helps the positioning inconvenience ( even though it still matters a lot, of course ). SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Aug 1, 2015, 3:21:38 PM
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" I hate chain honestly it's like "cutting balls" of the skill its heart and soul. Making deal with the devil. Last edited by MCSMvsME#0476 on Aug 2, 2015, 4:53:22 AM
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I'm currently playing with this skill on a new character.
I have one question which i am itching to get answered: Will this gem be viable with a pure elemental weapon/build, rather than a weapon and build that relies on converting phys to elemental damage? Will the EDPS from a good ele weapon fully convert to the projectiles? Is it possible to for example use Hyaon's Fury and recieve good results? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1552460 - my drop solution
Specs: CPU - i5 9600k, geforce 2060, 32 gb ram, ssd, 2133/2333 mz.----- EXILES EVERYWHERE, PLEASE?!?!?! |
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