(3.2) [Lighty] 2H RT Cyclone: Dope for Beast League & Lab™

Hello guys, i would rly appriciate if you halped me optimise my gem setup.
The idea is to create most optimal gem setup, so if im currently running bm node that doesnt mean i cannot respec, same with full phys or running added fire. I want to know your toughts about my item setup and what could i improve.
My eq:

And passives:

So first of all, should i stay with kaoms or go with redblade or rares with 25-30% ms?
Secondly im going to run heavy strike so i feel like empires grasp is mandatory so i wont have to chace bosses after knockback.
And, the most important: gem setup. The only one im sure is 4l cwdt ic ms id, any other setup is mystery to me. I want to run HS in atziri and Cyclone in belly, i would also love to have my brotem. Can you guys help me up with this?

I'm thinking about jumping on the cyclone train and I'd like to know a few things.
1. I hear movement speed is important for cyclone. So kaom's roots are a no-go?
2. Starforge or disfavor?
3. How is it against uber Atziri and Chayula? My gladiator can handle shaper and guardians (though it takes a long time), but uber atziri kicks his ass, especially the split phase. Never tried Chayula.
4. My gladiator has been packing the following gear. Can I just use these directly for cyclone? Some of these cost me a fair bit. Rather not replace them if i can help it.

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radiostar01 wrote:

1. I hear movement speed is important for cyclone. So kaom's roots are a no-go?

I'd say so, yes. Though you can get movespeed elsewhere, tree, Devoto's...

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2. Starforge or disfavor?

You choose.

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4. My gladiator has been packing the following gear. Can I just use these directly for cyclone? Some of these cost me a fair bit. Rather not replace them if i can help it.

Spoiler

I'd want attackspeed gloves.
Flat phys damage like steel rings is not super important on 2h builds, but sure, you can use it when you already have it... though if steel rings, I'd want t1 flat phys on there, not some shitty mastercraft. ;)

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Peterlerock wrote:

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radiostar01 wrote:

1. I hear movement speed is important for cyclone. So kaom's roots are a no-go?

I'd say so, yes. Though you can get movespeed elsewhere, tree, Devoto's...

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2. Starforge or disfavor?

You choose.

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4. My gladiator has been packing the following gear. Can I just use these directly for cyclone? Some of these cost me a fair bit. Rather not replace them if i can help it.

Spoiler

I'd want attackspeed gloves.
Flat phys damage like steel rings is not super important on 2h builds, but sure, you can use it when you already have it... though if steel rings, I'd want t1 flat phys on there, not some shitty mastercraft. ;)

I took a look at OP's starforge video and that Xoph kill looked pretty slow. I also took a peek at your build and noticed your 2nd starforge with 6l heavy strike. Is cyclone not used to kill bosses? What has been your experience with end game?

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radiostar01 wrote:

I also took a peek at your build and noticed your 2nd starforge with 6l heavy strike. Is cyclone not used to kill bosses? What has been your experience with end game?

My build is quite different from the OP.

I killed all 4 guardians with a 6L Cyclone on a 480 DpS rare Axe, before I purchased my 6L Starforge. It's possible because I have Vaal Pact and can stay in the Arena forever, but it's not really time efficient to do so. ;)

With 6L heavy strike single target setup, I kill them at least twice as fast. There's no melee skill with higher ST than Heavy Strike + 2x Weight of the Empire. (Edit: For this build, at least. Molten Strike is probably better when you can scale the projectile damage and number)

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Peterlerock wrote:

My build is quite different from the OP.

I killed all 4 guardians with a 6L Cyclone on a 480 DpS rare Axe, before I purchased my 6L Starforge. It's possible because I have Vaal Pact and can stay in the Arena forever, but it's not really time efficient to do so. ;)

With 6L heavy strike single target setup, I kill them at least twice as fast. There's no melee skill with higher ST than Heavy Strike + 2x Weight of the Empire. (Edit: For this build, at least. Molten Strike is probably better when you can scale the projectile damage and number)

Well okay then. Thanks for your replies.
Yeah a Brutus Lead Sprinkler build has absolutely ridiculous single target. Even with the change I suspect they can still kill guardians in about 10 seconds.

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radiostar01 wrote:

I'm thinking about jumping on the cyclone train and I'd like to know a few things.
1. I hear movement speed is important for cyclone. So kaom's roots are a no-go?
2. Starforge or disfavor?
3. How is it against uber Atziri and Chayula? My gladiator can handle shaper and guardians (though it takes a long time), but uber atziri kicks his ass, especially the split phase. Never tried Chayula.
4. My gladiator has been packing the following gear. Can I just use these directly for cyclone? Some of these cost me a fair bit. Rather not replace them if i can help it.

Spoiler

It's really not a boss killing build. I have a decent gear and killing Shaper took me ages. If farming bosses is what you're looking for, you should do some other build.

Before anything, I wanted to thank you for your detailed guide. You clearly know what you are doing. In all honesty, I have just started playing a few days ago. So, please forgive my lack of knowledge on these topics. I am level 31, and I have just gotten the Cyclone skill gem, and I have realized that it is a "green" skill gem, which requires a lot of Dex, and I can't use it. I checked your gear, and I didn't find the Cyclone skill gem in any of your equipment. Again, perhaps these things are obvious for experienced players, but to me this POE is a little bit overwhelming. Am I supposed to invest on Dexterity items or something like that? Is there a reason you are not using Cyclone on your skills? I thank you in advance for any help that you can provide.

Enjoy your weekend,
Paul

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sammael1984 wrote:

I have realized that it is a "green" skill gem, which requires a lot of Dex, and I can't use it.

During early stages, you are supposed to wear +Dex items or take some of the +30 dex nodes in the skilltree. Or just continue using Sunder until you can use Cyclone.

In lategame, don't waste skillpoints on stat requirements, instead have a couple +50 Dex rolls on your gear, like on this item:

Hi, I have a question: this setup works? Curse on Hit + Warlord's Mark + Vengeance + Enfeeble.

Jugg/blood magic here and i'm too lazy to cast enduring cry...

and later with starforge vs phyz. reflect? 25% from yugul. 20 from fortify and...? maybe Sibyl's Lament?