(3.2) [Lighty] 2H RT Cyclone: Dope for Beast League & Lab™

check out my char to get an idea.

I'm playing the starforge-slayer version of the build.. Should I take the trip to get DEVOTION? Also, is EXECUTIONER worth getting when I already have culling strike from slayer?

hello i love this build thx

few questions ? starforge is the best weapon for jugg?
why do you think about my gems? warlord is usefull on jugg or i need to switch for enfeeble /vulna?
thx

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DeVolulker wrote:

Hi, i have starforge 5l and im thinking about which gem i should input. Cyclone-faster attack,brutality,maim and concetrated effect ? Please help, thx

Cyclone - Melee Physical Damage - Maim - Brutality - Ruthless
Conc is only good for bosses.

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tutstuts wrote:

I'm playing the starforge-slayer version of the build.. Should I take the trip to get DEVOTION? Also, is EXECUTIONER worth getting when I already have culling strike from slayer?

Devotion is good for defensive builds. Its an option... among many.

Executioner isnt great with slayer, you're better off using the points elsewhere.

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Peterlerock wrote:

Faster attacks is al,ost never worth it in a lategame setup.
It's not a multiplier, it' a flat increase.

21/20 faster attacks gives you 55% flat increase. This maybe isnt great for Berserker which has 25% from savage hit along with everything else on the tree, but just to understand, a typical support, excluding MPD and Ruthless, gives about 30-40% more damage, so its still quite competitive. Also, it has a great advantage if you go crimson dance - more stacks!

A typical cyclone tree has 50% increased attack speed. At this value, faster attacks represents a virtual 36.7% more multiplier, very close to a typical support gem such as Maim (33%). The only two "locks" for a pure phys build are MPD and Brutality. Faster Attacks will only fall behind under very heavy optimization (16% attack speed on gloves, 35% from helm using devotos with an enchant and jewels with attack speed).

Anyway, for a pure phys build... the best set-up is generally imho:

Cyclone - Melee Physical Damage - Maim - Brutality - Ruthless - Offensive: Chance to Bleed/Defensive: Fortify.

Bring on the Crimson Dance meta boys!

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Samir316 wrote:

A typical cyclone tree has 50% increased attack speed. At this value, faster attacks represents a virtual 36.7% more multiplier, very close to a typical support gem such as Maim (33%).

Maim also has "enemies take increased damage", which is another multiplier.
This gem is on par with the best melee gems, only question is: Do I put it on a support skill like warchief (15% more DpS on your main attack) or do I want it up all the time?

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The only two "locks" for a pure phys build are MPD and Brutality. Faster Attacks will only fall behind under very heavy optimization (16% attack speed on gloves, 35% from helm using devotos with an enchant and jewels with attack speed).

2h RT builds are super easy to gear for.
Flat phys doesn't add a lot (I tried on a steel ring with t1 phys and laughed about the ~3-4k to my 120k it offered), we already have tons of %phys in the tree, so attackspeed is all that's left to itemize for, unless we are in a luxury position (then use your steel rings).
Therefor I usually have AS on gloves, enchant and all jewels.
This stacking of AS leads to faster attacks support being overshadowed by real multipliers.

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Samir316 wrote:

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tutstuts wrote:

I'm playing the starforge-slayer version of the build.. Should I take the trip to get DEVOTION? Also, is EXECUTIONER worth getting when I already have culling strike from slayer?

Devotion is good for defensive builds. Its an option... among many.

Executioner isnt great with slayer, you're better off using the points elsewhere.

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Peterlerock wrote:

Faster attacks is al,ost never worth it in a lategame setup.
It's not a multiplier, it' a flat increase.

21/20 faster attacks gives you 55% flat increase. This maybe isnt great for Berserker which has 25% from savage hit along with everything else on the tree, but just to understand, a typical support, excluding MPD and Ruthless, gives about 30-40% more damage, so its still quite competitive. Also, it has a great advantage if you go crimson dance - more stacks!

A typical cyclone tree has 50% increased attack speed. At this value, faster attacks represents a virtual 36.7% more multiplier, very close to a typical support gem such as Maim (33%). The only two "locks" for a pure phys build are MPD and Brutality. Faster Attacks will only fall behind under very heavy optimization (16% attack speed on gloves, 35% from helm using devotos with an enchant and jewels with attack speed).

Anyway, for a pure phys build... the best set-up is generally imho:

Cyclone - Melee Physical Damage - Maim - Brutality - Ruthless - Offensive: Chance to Bleed/Defensive: Fortify.

Bring on the Crimson Dance meta boys!

I don't think I'm going for devotion then. I just killed two of the guardians, still need to find the maps to get to the other two.

I'm using Faster attacks but I'm also using Devotos, 15% ias gloves and some attack speed jewels.. Should I switch to chance to bleed? What do you think would be stronger? And where should I go with my next 4-6 passive points? Could you take a look at my profile? I'm playing the slayer called zetretinha.

Thanks!


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Edit: Actually I'm not using FA, I was using it on my totem but since I got Kaom's its gone. I'm using conc/AOE.

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tutstuts wrote:

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Your gear is very good. Killing Guardians and Shaper should be easy for you.

I would aim for more defense with your next points. Damage should be no problem for you - so try to survive longer!

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Shaddolf wrote:

I have a lvl92 juggernaught cyclone char who I have not touched in months but I feel like playing. Given the free full passive respec, just want to make sure I do it right.

Here is my gear; https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Shaddolf/characters

So here is the build you recommend, just without the mace damage things as I run an axe:

https://poeplanner.com/AAkAAPkACREDAHkEswUtBWYJlgm7C2EMXw48EuEUIBRxGJEaOBynIWAnLymlLIUt0jkOOlI8BTwtQKBGt0d-SdVQR1OlWfNaGl4TXz9gkWFSZU1nWGhYaGVo8m8ncql07XTxdqx673uMfNmCB4Nfg8yE2YTvhVKGYIdqidiPYJBVkc6S0Jd5mmqfPqIAqSeplKyqrY2vbLc-u-28n702vqfAZsT2xq7PftNv15bYvdlh2XzaweCf5FHkreoY6wnvDu9O73zwH_Nv8933Mvjr_gohVdw9B3XApnh69kiMzz38WGPG2PJFOuGmVzGe97kWu8se0jjAAQbGXaTd1QAAAAAA

I note that this is for lvl92 which is great.

But don't I really want the axe passives? (cleaving and/or slaughter)

- should I get rid of passives somewhere to run these, or am I better off just going without?

Thanks

Can someone please reply to this question when they get a chance?

Many thanks! :)

Could you give me some advice on what order to follow the berserker skill tree? Wonderful written guide really good for new players like me! Thank you

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Shaddolf wrote:

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Shaddolf wrote:

I have a lvl92 juggernaught cyclone char who I have not touched in months but I feel like playing. Given the free full passive respec, just want to make sure I do it right.

Here is my gear; https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Shaddolf/characters

So here is the build you recommend, just without the mace damage things as I run an axe:

https://poeplanner.com/AAkAAPkACREDAHkEswUtBWYJlgm7C2EMXw48EuEUIBRxGJEaOBynIWAnLymlLIUt0jkOOlI8BTwtQKBGt0d-SdVQR1OlWfNaGl4TXz9gkWFSZU1nWGhYaGVo8m8ncql07XTxdqx673uMfNmCB4Nfg8yE2YTvhVKGYIdqidiPYJBVkc6S0Jd5mmqfPqIAqSeplKyqrY2vbLc-u-28n702vqfAZsT2xq7PftNv15bYvdlh2XzaweCf5FHkreoY6wnvDu9O73zwH_Nv8933Mvjr_gohVdw9B3XApnh69kiMzz38WGPG2PJFOuGmVzGe97kWu8se0jjAAQbGXaTd1QAAAAAA

I note that this is for lvl92 which is great.

But don't I really want the axe passives? (cleaving and/or slaughter)

- should I get rid of passives somewhere to run these, or am I better off just going without?

Thanks

Can someone please reply to this question when they get a chance?

Many thanks! :)

Gear:

Get a chest with high life, res and strenght on it. 5 link is enough for your totem, no need for a 6 link. Get another Helm (Devotos Domination!!) and maybe Carnage Heart as Amu.

Gems:

Remove Warlords Mark - get Vulnerability to work (Curse on hit - Veng. - Vul)
I would add Maim for your Ele Damage

Skilltree:

Look at my skilltree - remove the Sword Nodes and add the 5 Axe nodes for Slaughter. So you can get the last endurance charge.
I would not put so many points into armor, even as a juggernaut. Life is imop better.
I used Hezmans with this skilltree to kill Shaper etc. and it was okay.