(3.2) [Lighty] 2H RT Cyclone: Dope for Beast League & Lab™

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FrUcTuS wrote:
Guys I'm a berseker Marauder im realy happy figthing whith this build but i have a problem im Being oneshotting to many times. Im happy with my dmg but i dont know what is next step. I suposse get 6L is ver important to do my cyclone better but... what i have to do now? Can yo give me some advice? Only have 60chaos right now :(


5-link cyclone is no problem, but more damage doesn't solve anything if you get oneshotted by trash mobs. You have really low elemental resistances - these MUST be capped at 75% each, your gear lacks maximum life stats or the existing ones are too low. Get rings with maximum life with ele resist with the highest rolls you can afford, rare gear is lots of time better than uniques, especially those that are not must have for your build, again try to get +-90 maximum life rolls on each your gear with multiple resistances around 30%-40%.
Thanks for the guide Lighty. Managed to down the Shaper following this guide, on only my second try too.

Found this video about the shaper to be really useful beforehand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTH1tqbOgII

The insane life leech that the Slayer provides is really powerful, as long as you are able to stay close and damage the boss you can pretty much tank (or insta leech back) pretty much everything bar the largest of one-shots.

Sitting at level 95 with 8050 life. Cyclone probably isn't the best shaper killing build out there and requires good gear, but it can definitely be done! Really glad as I find cyclone to be the most fun build to play in PoE.

My gear:



Last edited by Ridman#0986 on Aug 26, 2017, 3:39:05 PM
Hi all

Would appreciate any advice on tree/jewels/gear. Progress is pretty steady, generally can map pretty relaxed T6-9 but die to the odd map. Should my next focus be getting a 5L and more life? Switch up the flasks?

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/electromagrod/characters

Thanks in advance!
I wanna do a Ngamahu Cyclone Raider. I got a normal 5l 4 R 1 G chest. No darkray vectors. Still possible to run this build full rares? Execpt for the axe ofc.
I notice the utility gems include:

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Cast When Damage Taken(20) + Immortal Call(20) + Increased Duration(20) + Molten Shell(20)


I'm assuming it's level 20 in order to amp up Molten Shell as much as possible. Given that CWDT isn't going to be proccing too often, is a non-endurance-charge build going to be getting much out of Immortal Call? Any thoughts on replacing Immortal Call with Warlord's Mark?

Alternatively, if going with Juggernaut, could it make sense to keep the combo at low level in order to proc Immortal Call as often as possible and stay invincible from endurance charges?

It's quite possible there's game mechanics I'm not aware of here :D
Last edited by ZorbaTHut#0321 on Aug 26, 2017, 12:57:12 PM
Hi, is the tree for slayer updated?


Its not like anybody else
As I noob,I dont get the passive tree for slayer . Not taking Cleaving and Slauhter,doing a hard detour to take Vitality void...

Wouldnt this tree work better?

Just asking because I'm noob

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/3.0.0/AAAABAQBAQHcBLMFLQd1CZYLYQxwE0wTyRQgFHEV7BfhGjgaPiFVJvgnICcvJ58s-y5TMgk1kjkOOuE7tjwFPfxAoEd-SshN404yUEdYY1nzXhNfP2EhYuxkUmVNZadoZWjybEZuqm87cmxyqXTtdqx343gNeWh673vDfNmCB4TZhO-FUoWnhrSHaooiiq-K8IzPkBGQVZBsl3miAKU1plepJ6luqZSsqq2NrlCvbLKAtfK5Hb02vqfAGsBmwKbBBMGjxILE9sauypDPftNv2L3ZYdl82sHcPeRR6UbqGOsJ7w7vfPAf8kHyRfPd9WH2SPcy-Ov-Cv5r_o8=?accountName=ffoD&characterName=ffoD_cycloneR
Loving this build. Following the Juggernaut: tree

Act 5 Kitava, spinning left and right in front of him. Circles around the heart. 0 death for the 1st time (played 3 other builds and many deth)


Wondering what belt I should us after 50? have been rocking a biscos leash with near perfect rolls since 30, can I do better?
Also Boots, using Nomic's Storm cause I like being speedy gonzales, should i get better?


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Karibean12 wrote:
As I noob,I dont get the passive tree for slayer . Not taking Cleaving and Slauhter,doing a hard detour to take Vitality void...

Wouldnt this tree work better?

Just asking because I'm noob

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/3.0.0/AAAABAQBAQHcBLMFLQd1CZYLYQxwE0wTyRQgFHEV7BfhGjgaPiFVJvgnICcvJ58s-y5TMgk1kjkOOuE7tjwFPfxAoEd-SshN404yUEdYY1nzXhNfP2EhYuxkUmVNZadoZWjybEZuqm87cmxyqXTtdqx343gNeWh673vDfNmCB4TZhO-FUoWnhrSHaooiiq-K8IzPkBGQVZBsl3miAKU1plepJ6luqZSsqq2NrlCvbLKAtfK5Hb02vqfAGsBmwKbBBMGjxILE9sauypDPftNv2L3ZYdl82sHcPeRR6UbqGOsJ7w7vfPAf8kHyRfPd9WH2SPcy-Ov-Cv5r_o8=?accountName=ffoD&characterName=ffoD_cycloneR


The problem with your tree is that it is not an efficient use of passive points. the Hematophagy cluster is a significant area due to the increased damage while leeching, the increased life leech rate, and most importantly, the increase in maximum life leech rate. the maximum life leech rate is critical as this allows a slayer to boost the leech cap which is the limit on just how fast our life is replenished from our leech. quoting from the POE wiki: " Each leech instance will stack and apply to the character simultaneously until it expires or the character is at full life. However, if the total leech per second from all leech instances is greater than the character's leech cap, the extra healing will be ignored." The means that a higher leech cap will make our leech heal us faster.

in my case, speccing into the hematophagy notable increases my hp/s recovery from life leech by 15%, from 2,285hp/s to 2631hp/s, or roughly an additional 350hp/s. it might not seem like much, but this could mean the difference between getting insta-gibbed by a oneshot or not.

The same reasoning would apply to the vitality void but i personally feel that it isn't worth the points unless you're running a mana variation and you don't have mana leech on your jewels or gear.

I wouldn't recommend getting resistance nodes in the tree. as it stands, it is pretty easy to cap resists through your gear. in your tree, you're also out of the way of the bloodless cluster which is a whopping 23% increased life.

as for the cleaving and slaughter nodes, the reasoning behind it is that those are weapon-specific nodes and as such, which cluster you pick will be dependent on your current weapon. in my case, the axe cluster would be worthless for me since i currently use a starforge. back when i was using a kaom's primacy, i did get the axe cluster but respecced out of it when i changed my weapon.
Last edited by anton2k4#7394 on Aug 27, 2017, 4:38:16 AM
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anton2k4 wrote:
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Karibean12 wrote:
As I noob,I dont get the passive tree for slayer . Not taking Cleaving and Slauhter,doing a hard detour to take Vitality void...

Wouldnt this tree work better?

Just asking because I'm noob

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/3.0.0/AAAABAQBAQHcBLMFLQd1CZYLYQxwE0wTyRQgFHEV7BfhGjgaPiFVJvgnICcvJ58s-y5TMgk1kjkOOuE7tjwFPfxAoEd-SshN404yUEdYY1nzXhNfP2EhYuxkUmVNZadoZWjybEZuqm87cmxyqXTtdqx343gNeWh673vDfNmCB4TZhO-FUoWnhrSHaooiiq-K8IzPkBGQVZBsl3miAKU1plepJ6luqZSsqq2NrlCvbLKAtfK5Hb02vqfAGsBmwKbBBMGjxILE9sauypDPftNv2L3ZYdl82sHcPeRR6UbqGOsJ7w7vfPAf8kHyRfPd9WH2SPcy-Ov-Cv5r_o8=?accountName=ffoD&characterName=ffoD_cycloneR


The problem with your tree is that it is not an efficient use of passive points. the Hematophagy cluster is a significant area due to the increased damage while leeching, the increased life leech rate, and most importantly, the increase in maximum life leech rate. the maximum life leech rate is critical as this allows a slayer to boost the leech cap which is the limit on just how fast our life is replenished from our leech. quoting from the POE wiki: " Each leech instance will stack and apply to the character simultaneously until it expires or the character is at full life. However, if the total leech per second from all leech instances is greater than the character's leech cap, the extra healing will be ignored." The means that a higher leech cap will make our leech heal us faster.

in my case, speccing into the hematophagy notable increases my hp/s recovery from life leech by 15%, from 2,285hp/s to 2631hp/s, or roughly an additional 350hp/s. it might not seem like much, but this could mean the difference between getting insta-gibbed by a oneshot or not.

The same reasoning would apply to the vitality void but i personally feel that it isn't worth the points unless you're running a mana variation and you don't have mana leech on your jewels or gear.

I wouldn't recommend getting resistance nodes in the tree. as it stands, it is pretty easy to cap resists through your gear. in your tree, you're also out of the way of the bloodless cluster which is a whopping 23% increased life.

as for the cleaving and slaughter nodes, the reasoning behind it is that those are weapon-specific nodes and as such, which cluster you pick will be dependent on your current weapon. in my case, the axe cluster would be worthless for me since i currently use a starforge. back when i was using a kaom's primacy, i did get the axe cluster but respecced out of it when i changed my weapon.


Thank you for your explanation!

Then I can follow this tree, the first page one right? is updated enough?

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