(3.2) [Lighty] 2H RT Cyclone: Dope for Beast League & Lab™

I'm wondering what defense status is needed to farm Uber Lab? I'm sitting at lvl 79, 4.6k hp with a 5L hez. I believe more life nodes are needed.
Last edited by liuqiao9902#5685 on Dec 11, 2016, 12:47:02 AM
Hi
I want to know how much dps do we gain from upgrading Bloodlust to Disfavour .

The damage of Disfavour is around 30% more of Bloodlust, but we lost a link.

The bleeding effect does not stack if I understand correctly. Cyclone dose not have any big hits, right?

Also
How about the option of running without bloodmagic support gem.


Thanks a lot
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liuqiao9902 wrote:
I'm wondering what defense status is needed to farm Uber Lab? I'm sitting at lvl 79, 4.6k hp with a 5L hez. I believe more life nodes are needed.


I'd get more life; the trash is easy but Izaro trucks and it can be hard to Cyclone around his room with all the traps and bladed sentries. I think I did it with ~5.8k HP and 37% physical mitigation. His ranged sword slicer attack is the most dangerous, so try to avoid it at all costs, or have a Basalt ready to mitigate the hit.
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zyysking wrote:
Hi
I want to know how much dps do we gain from upgrading Bloodlust to Disfavour .

The damage of Disfavour is around 30% more of Bloodlust, but we lost a link.

The bleeding effect does not stack if I understand correctly. Cyclone dose not have any big hits, right?

Also
How about the option of running without bloodmagic support gem.


Thanks a lot


Given the complexities of PoE damage formula and differences in build setups, it'd be hard to give you an exact number, but I'd say roughly ~15-20% total dps increase by going to Atziri but dropping a support for Blood Magic (depending on which support is dropped).

Not quite as much as you might think in terms of raw DPS, but it doesn't include Atziri's extra weapon range, which is pretty impactful when combined with increased Area of Effect.

Bleed does not stack damage, no, so the Bleed damage from Cyclone is much smaller than you'd get from something like Earthquake. Like Herald of Ash, it's main use is in killing off low health targets while you spin away.

Running without Blood Magic is doable, but requires gear investment or specific Ascendancies (Berserker) to make work efficiently, so typically isn't worth it.
Last edited by Archimtiros#3795 on Dec 11, 2016, 3:27:40 AM
Right now I am doing 2h RT slayer cyclone. I have a lightning coil and still manage to get max resist with ele weakness.

I have 6k hp but my concern is my armor only provides 25% DR. But with my lightning coil, is this enough? It will be hard for me to find more armor pieces while also maintaining LC because I'm also using daresso helmet.
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Archimtiros wrote:
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liuqiao9902 wrote:
I'm wondering what defense status is needed to farm Uber Lab? I'm sitting at lvl 79, 4.6k hp with a 5L hez. I believe more life nodes are needed.


I'd get more life; the trash is easy but Izaro trucks and it can be hard to Cyclone around his room with all the traps and bladed sentries. I think I did it with ~5.8k HP and 37% physical mitigation. His ranged sword slicer attack is the most dangerous, so try to avoid it at all costs, or have a Basalt ready to mitigate the hit.


Thanks for the advice. Does the 37% physical mitigation include fortify and endurance charge? I couldn't keep the endurance charge in a boss fight. In the meanwhile, to achieve 5.8hp sounds impossible with carass jacket.
I'm a Slayer btw.
Last edited by liuqiao9902#5685 on Dec 11, 2016, 10:10:27 AM
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liuqiao9902 wrote:
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Archimtiros wrote:
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liuqiao9902 wrote:
I'm wondering what defense status is needed to farm Uber Lab? I'm sitting at lvl 79, 4.6k hp with a 5L hez. I believe more life nodes are needed.


I'd get more life; the trash is easy but Izaro trucks and it can be hard to Cyclone around his room with all the traps and bladed sentries. I think I did it with ~5.8k HP and 37% physical mitigation. His ranged sword slicer attack is the most dangerous, so try to avoid it at all costs, or have a Basalt ready to mitigate the hit.


Thanks for the advice. Does the 37% physical mitigation include fortify and endurance charge? I couldn't keep the endurance charge in a boss fight. In the meanwhile, to achieve 5.8hp sounds impossible with carass jacket.
I'm a Slayer btw.


No, that was just base tooltip.

5.8k certainly isn't impossible with Carcass Jack (source: am using right now for farming easy content), but you really shouldn't be using that chest for something like Izaro anyway. Increased AoE and Area damage brings very little to the table compared to what you sacrifice to make use of it - namely high physical reduction through armor when facing a high physical damage boss. For reference that ~37% physical mitigation drops to ~20% with Carcass, which makes a world of difference.
Last edited by Archimtiros#3795 on Dec 11, 2016, 11:20:33 AM
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broseidon07 wrote:
Right now I am doing 2h RT slayer cyclone. I have a lightning coil and still manage to get max resist with ele weakness.

I have 6k hp but my concern is my armor only provides 25% DR. But with my lightning coil, is this enough? It will be hard for me to find more armor pieces while also maintaining LC because I'm also using daresso helmet.


You will have a hard time making up pure physical reduction, but the Lightning Coil's special effect makes up for that. I'd still recommend looking for more armor than usual on other pieces however; more armor is never really a bad thing.
What do you guys think of this guide comparatively?

Slightly different tree and supporting ideas.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1361374
The fairest flowers bloom in the foulest places.
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Losse wrote:
What do you guys think of this guide comparatively?

Slightly different tree and supporting ideas.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1361374


All cyclone builds are similar but Lighty guide is overall imo one of the best guide on this forum (LOTS of useful information and everything is easy to find).


btw. what blasphemy defensive aura is better? I using lvl 1 enfeeble (and i CAN'T get more int) or maxed temporal chains?
Last edited by pijanapanda#4346 on Dec 11, 2016, 2:46:42 PM

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