[outdated] Caustic Arrow Solo Map MFer (20/300+)

Thx Serleth, always useful.

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k33s69 wrote:

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grimjack68 wrote:

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k33s69 wrote:

I don't know if anyone asked before this but how works the "Decay" in the bows 1+2? Is is really worth to invest in?

Thanks and sorry for my english :D

Are you asking about the Rapid Decay skill gem?

No, the essence enchant "Decay for 1000 chaos damage.."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqDbfKdCGDo
Recorded video about the difference between +3Bow vs +3Bow Decay
I hope clearly
As I understand Decay burst after each hit. I deliberately did not show himself CA, there will not understand anything. On the lower maps tier benefit from it probably will not be much, the usual +3 CA there and so is working fine.

First of all - thanks for the wonderful build, enjoying it very much right now)

I didnt read all the thread, so if this was answered before - I'm sorry, but I'm wondering, why do You suggest getting the +2 to Bow gems first when +1 to all gems is much superior if you already have Empower (which doesnt cost that much right now), since its essentially +2 to CA (1 from bow, 1 from Empower +1) and +1 to all other support gems.

Because Empower only trumps other support gems (namely, swapping Slower Proj out for it) if you have an Empower 3 or greater.

This is especially important to consider early league when even corrupted Empower 3s are 2-3ex, and +3 bows are 3-6ex.


Given that you can acquire a +3 bow for roughly 2-6x the cost of a corrupted Empower 3 (depending on what time in the league you're starting the build), for at LEAST 3x the cost-effectiveness (+3 to CA level, +1 to all supports), the priority is to secure the +3 bow first, meaning you want to save currency and get +2 bow gems while working towards +3, rather than investing heavily into a +1 all gems & Empower 3+ combination to get significantly reduced effectiveness by cost comparison.

In other words, it's about managing your currency intelligently. You will see a greater benefit by saving your currency to first to get a +3 bow than you will going for +1/Empower 3+.

By aiming for this order of progression, you will reduce the cost of buying an Empower 3, as its price decays the longer the league goes on (Instead of spending 2-3ex on Empower 3, you spend 10c).

This guide is targeted in part at newer players, particularly those who are playing in challenge leagues, so it was important for me to structure it in such a way that players could save currency, even if they didn't yet understand why.

Doing great so far. I have a question regarding Increased Item Quantity gem (sorry if such question has been asked before).

Can somebody ̶s̶e̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶u̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶o̶m̶b̶ recommend a gems combination for the CA to use with Increased Item Quantity and Increased Item Rarity support gems?

Thank you in advance!

Thx for clarification regarding Empower. It's just I started late in the league (like a week ago) and Emp 3 is much cheaper than +3 bow, thus I thought it was better.

I have another question, does IIQ/IIR work on chests, barrels, etc.?

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Lordina wrote:

does IIQ/IIR work on chests, barrels, etc?

IIR and IIQ from gear do not affect chests, and have no effect on the number or type of currency, items, scrolls, or gems that drop from them.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/11707/page/195#p2722419

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Гаруспик wrote:

Can somebody ̶s̶e̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶u̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶o̶m̶b̶ recommend a gems combination for the CA to use with Increased Item Quantity and Increased Item Rarity support gems?

Thank you in advance!

While a set up with both IR and IQ gems is not recommended, as you are losing a damage gem in the process, I do run with both in the standard league. My CA links set up is; Caustic Arrow - Conc. Effect - Rapid Decay - Void Manipulation - Rarity - Quantity. Pierce could easly be a swap for the green gems if it provides more damage with your passive/gear set up.

Clear speed is noticeably reduced around T10 maps. Fast clearing and alt farming in the white or yellow bracket of maps still feels really strong with this set up for me.

Also check out the two links in the tools section to find your ideal MF ratio or if you want to plug in the numbers of your damage modifiers for the effective Cloud damage calculator.

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ChronoExile wrote:

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Гаруспик wrote:

Can somebody ̶s̶e̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶u̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶o̶m̶b̶ recommend a gems combination for the CA to use with Increased Item Quantity and Increased Item Rarity support gems?

Thank you in advance!

While a set up with both IR and IQ gems is not recommended, as you are losing a damage gem in the process, I do run with both in the standard league. My CA links set up is; Caustic Arrow - Conc. Effect - Rapid Decay - Void Manipulation - Rarity - Quantity. Pierce could easly be a swap for the green gems if it provides more damage with your passive/gear set up.

Clear speed is noticeably reduced around T10 maps. Fast clearing and alt farming in the white or yellow bracket of maps still feels really strong with this set up for me.

Also check out the two links in the tools section to find your ideal MF ratio or if you want to plug in the numbers of your damage modifiers for the effective Cloud damage calculator.

Wow! Thank you for such detailed answer! now I have understood everything I need!

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Гаруспик wrote:

s̶e̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶u̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶o̶m̶b̶

I haven't heard that in *forever.* Thanks for the classic reference.

Thanks to Chrono for following up on your question. He's got it. As long as you're willing to sacrifice clear speed for additional farming capability, that's basically how you do it. I personally start to notice a difference around Tier 5 maps, but as he said it's manageable probably up to T9.