[outdated] Caustic Arrow Solo Map MFer (20/300+)

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vick666 wrote:

Question Serleth

could you testedthe build with Empower lvl 4 and PA 21/20? Thanks

Unfortunately no, as Chrono pointed out the Beta was just wiped and I'm at present exploring a couple other build options both for MF and my own personal curiosity.

However I can tell you based on estimates of previous gem levels that each gem level (at higher levels, in a completed tree) adds about 1.5k dps. Running pierce instead of IIR, I was seeing about 17k damage with 7 frenzy charges up running a level 20 PA and Empower 2. So with three gem levels missing, that's 4.5k damage roughly, which would put a final DPS-spec'd cloud damage at 21.5k dps. We lose about 2k dps running IIR, so you would see 19.5k roughly running the build in MF gear and 21 PA / Empower 4.

thank's for the precision.

so Ive been following this guide a bit with a new build since beta wipe. I found a Eldritch Knowledge jewel which gives 5% chaos dmg per 10 int in radius so have decided to head to the witch nodes instead of the dualist to make use of it. Im hoping it will work well as I have very little currency to buy the uniques in fresh beta (if the even exist yet). Is this a good idea (I still pick up the frenzy charges near ranger and shadow) or am I missing something important?

Thanks

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d1alup wrote:

so Ive been following this guide a bit with a new build since beta wipe. I found a Eldritch Knowledge jewel which gives 5% chaos dmg per 10 int in radius so have decided to head to the witch nodes instead of the dualist to make use of it. Im hoping it will work well as I have very little currency to buy the uniques in fresh beta (if the even exist yet). Is this a good idea (I still pick up the frenzy charges near ranger and shadow) or am I missing something important?

Thanks

As long as you don't mind sacrificing the regen (thus meaning that you will need to sustain your Frenzy charges manually rather than running Blood Rage), it's an acceptable option but it's not the most efficient. You will still see a greater net benefit for a similar point investment by going to duelist. Remember that Slower Projectiles has changed to have a *more* multiplier on it, meaning that if you don't get the Duelist projectile nodes, you're missing out on a significant portion of how the damage scales.

In order, it goes like:

Base damage + Increased Projectile Damage
x More Projectile Damage
+ Other modifiers (DoT, Chaos, AoE)
x Conc Effect

So if you sacrifice the increased projectile damage nodes, you end up with net less DPS since you have three total multiplicative damage sources (Slower Proj, Frenzy Charges, Conc Effect), and the earlier in the calculation that you can stack your increased damage modifiers (in this case, +% proj damage), the greater impact you will see down the line in the calculation.

TL;DR go Duelist first and if you opt to not use Carcass Jack, then continue on to Witch to drop in Eldritch Knowledge later on in the build.

makes sense.....great reply...thanks :)

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Serleth wrote:

[...] and I'm at present exploring a couple other build options both for MF and my own personal curiosity.

Gold digger? =)

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Chronodroid wrote:

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Serleth wrote:

[...] and I'm at present exploring a couple other build options both for MF and my own personal curiosity.

Gold digger? =)

Sorry, I don't follow?

hehe np, gold digging is what we try with your Poison Arrow MF build :D

Also, have you seen the emerald weapon effect for 10 points on sale? I got one for my +3 bow, it's classic and fits the style much more than the other effects I already own.

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Chronodroid wrote:

hehe np, gold digging is what we try with your Poison Arrow MF build :D

Also, have you seen the emerald weapon effect for 10 points on sale? I got one for my +3 bow, it's classic and fits the style much more than the other effects I already own.

Oh. Gold digging can also be a metaphor someone who marries someone else expressly for the purpose of obtaining or sharing their wealth.

So... I think you just proposed to me.

Believe me, I'm tempted to pick it up but I'm hoarding my Axiom points to see if a new Portal effect comes out with the release / soon after the 2.0 expo.

oh wow :D I'm not a native English speaker, so please, would you accept my proposal? I'm a grounded, flexible and fun lad and can cook too (not only meat), whereas your duties would include washing the clothes :D

I looked up, and yes, it can be a person who is after the money only... Guess I used this wrong for a long time, oops!

New portal effets? Don't make me go crazy man!!