[LLD] Molten Shell Discussion

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Dopamineloveaffair wrote:
How many curses were used (flammability, elemental weakness), and was EE applied? There's no way molten does 6667 (1600x(1/1-0.76)) damage before enemy fire res is applied in LLD.


It was against dsfarblar who dont use resist curses (he use temp chains) and no ee.
It was crit though i think.
Also i was playing marauder that time with +1 fire res node and shitton of life nodes in genearal.
In other world 1600+ life(1600 is min i have) 76 fire res when hit and one shot.

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ddub3987 wrote:
How many of those other main skills can you think of that provide that amount of burst damage and insane defense?


Cyclone? Immunity to stun and knockback, destroys traps... People die in under a second mostly. I'd say that's burst damage, and certainly qualifies.

Trappers on the right side of the tree who stack clever construction, evasion/ondar's, acrobatics, and sometimes block. That doesn't technically qualify, but they're often paired together since they're so close together.
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Last edited by Dopamineloveaffair#4373 on Mar 11, 2015, 7:43:59 PM
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Dopamineloveaffair wrote:
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ddub3987 wrote:
How many of those other main skills can you think of that provide that amount of burst damage and insane defense?


Cyclone? Immunity to stun and knockback, destroys traps... People die in under a second mostly. I'd say that's burst damage, and certainly qualifies.

Trappers on the right side of the tree who stack clever construction, evasion/ondar's, acrobatics, and sometimes block. That doesn't technically qualify, but they're often paired together since they're so close together.


Cyclone also needs nerf ;)
Its burst dmg is close to oneshot and we dont like oneshots ;)
molten shell is useless
I don't really care for molten shell in LLD since while it's strong it's nowhere near as OP as in HLD which is a good thing. I've experienced worse to say
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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:
I don't really care for molten shell in LLD since while it's strong it's nowhere near as OP as in HLD which is a good thing. I've experienced worse to say


Yeah. The lack of conc effect, and weaker fire pen certainly makes a difference in LLD. Less caster crit builds as well.
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kuan999 wrote:
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Dopamineloveaffair wrote:
How many curses were used (flammability, elemental weakness), and was EE applied? There's no way molten does 6667 (1600x(1/1-0.76)) damage before enemy fire res is applied in LLD.


It was against dsfarblar who dont use resist curses (he use temp chains) and no ee.
It was crit though i think.
Also i was playing marauder that time with +1 fire res node and shitton of life nodes in genearal.
In other world 1600+ life(1600 is min i have) 76 fire res when hit and one shot.


im pretty sure thats impossible, i just tested it with a +3 tabula rasa 6link and only damage nodes and with pretty gg gear i still couldnt even get the number that should oneshot you with max fire pen (3478.26086957347826086957) also i know dsfar's tree doesnt have that much dmg

but yes, i still feel like molten shell could be tuned a down a bit more
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Last edited by eMbbuZomg#7098 on Mar 13, 2015, 5:39:22 PM
I totally agree, molten shell should be buffed instead.

Here are a few totally non-sarcastic suggestions,
like my first sentence in this post.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1211679
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