6v6 CTF is awesome.

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Skyforth wrote:

Yep, and the only problem with that is the gear system in an ARPG will never allow that. I don't think skill will give any advantage, but rather knowledge will. Knowing when to do something, or why to do something will benefit you. Skill is a lose term, which IMO does not apply to PoE pvp.

knowledge in a video game is a direct measure of skill...its about all you have besides your reflexes. knowledge of the game mechanics/your options, your spacing, reflexes,name locks and how you use these things is all you can even rate skill on in a game like this. Knowing match ups and swapping gear falls under knowledge=skill=arpg pvp. If you aren't doing it, you're going to lose. some builds can be universally played without swapping more then 1 piece of gear while others need to adapt completely. ability to grind gear or having no lifer/rmting is not part of this equation.

you make a lot of posts about pvp and how it blows in arpgs. you're not even looking at pvp in the right light to make that assumption. there are definitely things that make pvp stupid and some people admit it while others refuse to. though your complaints are about the core system itself, you may be new to this genre or just favor a different style of "pvp".

My feedback is based on LLD and LLD only. HLD is just my opinion.

I'm not making stuff up, i'm not biased and i have no build i want to protect. I think this is what the Feedback and developers need, instead of alpha members making sure their build goes through unscathed.

I don't PvP for PvP. I PvP for the rewards, but while im at it i want to improve and provide the feedback GGG needs, the feedback alphas/testers failed to present so that GGG can have a "balanced" and "successful" PvP system.

Everyone wants to make their own build as best as it can, that's what i want when patches come so that it's not slaughtered. I came to PvP after the patch and i play random builds. I used Cyclone in FFA to get #1 and #2 yet i'm reporting it being too strong, which it is.

All you HLD need to find the ground you're standing on. Just because I'm referring to LLD doesn't mean i'm taking a stab at your scene. I want to avoid it as far as possible because i have seen and known the vast disparity between Gear requirements. Frankly, LLD has as similar problem but on a significantly smaller scale. You may argue that the "ability to grind gear or having no lifer/rmting is not part of this equation" but the fact is, all of you have crazy gear. Most of you have mirrored items/mirror worthy items. Yet, you go ahead and still present the argument gear is "not part of this equation" and i find that ironic.

My 2 cents. I still don't care about HLD.

Kaiserin, you've played pvp for like 1.5week now, and I can tell you what you've learned is not completely true

Sure gear does matter but so do

Tree
Tree
Tree
Pot management
Skill(combos and such)
Able to adapt for each fight
Tree
Tree
Tactics

Since its just about gear, buy all BiS and gogogo