[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

Not sure if you answered this already, or if you even read it but I will try anyway.

First off considering I never played proper bow buid it is super helpful guide to get general idea.

I'm doing full Ele TS Scion, my original plan was to use Ele + Deadeye, but I was thinking that instead I could go for Ele + Assasin ( sound cooler/better by giving me easier crit, charge generation and maim wich is really awesome thing to have ) the only thing that set up is lacking are : additional proj (that's kinda big but i can live with that potentialy) and pierce.

I can fix lack of pierce with pierce gem (wich from what I read is not good enough as dmg link but it could be my temporal 6 link I guess) and later replace it with Shaper boots (lack of HP freaks me out a little but I am hipstering the fuck out of this build anyway so we will see :P )

My question is : If I can get around pierce problem can Assasin be better or it's worse option (that +proj looks nice) or maybe it's really matter of preferance in this case and difference is not that big.

I'm asking becuase as person who avoided bow builds till now I'm not that sure of my choices in that particualar matter and Ass just sounds juicy for me so was thinking about respecing to him later on potentialy (ideally when I get 6link/shaper boots I guess )
My Item Filter : http://pastebin.com/7AsWX5jb
Ok i'm stuck with this doubt lol: should i give up 10k of dps and getting the kaom's heart? The dps will drop because of the sockets, my body armour now has 6 link, with kaom i should move the gems to the bow, which has 5 link.

Or should i wait until a 6-link good bow(they cost toooo much)?


I don't know, i think life is better, but i need advice.

Thanks in advance to whoever will help me.

ps: oh i'm using the tornado shot version of the build

pps: my dps will drop from 61k to 52k.
Last edited by Ahrimotto#0638 on Aug 20, 2017, 2:48:56 PM
Could someone give me a hand with this build?
I'm level 33 and just started act 4.
I already started using tornado shot, hatred and herald of ice. As well as other shot skills.
I have Huge mana problems. I can't go on further that 10 seconds wihtout popping a mana flask.
Link to my character "Harqain":
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Kannikka/characters

Thank you
Last edited by Kannikka#6128 on Aug 20, 2017, 3:00:20 PM
@markanthonyfrugal thank you for your time, mate! Will be looking forward seeing your results of Asphyxia's Wrath!
Could someone help me with noob questions about the scion build?

1)It says "Elementalist/Assasin", but the tree screenshot shows points allocated near the ranger starting node. How is that possible? Or should I actually take a ranger accension?

2)The tree includes extra frenzy charges, how should I get frenzy charges in combat?

3)Are there any important gear pieces like certain uniques/flasks that everybody except me knows about?)
Do you have a HC version of your skilltree? high healthpool preferably:)

I don't mind losing out on damage and being slower at clearing things, as long as the character doesn't rip to non-bosses from 1 lag spike ;P
@Marilomuka
Men Signal Fire still rocking solid.

I bought +1 arrow aphyxia's for 10chaos:
Tornado shot deduction of 10k dps
Split arrow by 17k
Barrage by 30k
Blast Rain by 38k

@kanika
@low lvl you will need to used mana flask with spirit void as your damage is still low to leech back the high mana of tornado shot but in long run as your dmage progress spirit void or even 1 mana leech node will be enough.

@ahrimotto
10k is big drop in dps but kaoms will give you more survivability. go for more life (kaoms) dps is 10k is nothing if your already dead.

@Hekktorr
- what should i improve to run uber lab and t15 in the future ? theres more option in terms of gears if you wanna upgrade but as long you dont feel squishy i think get those gems quality first while you doing that then you get loots to save for your final gear.

- should i stay with TS for single target or switch to barrage ? this is up to you, what makes you happy but my choice is to get a real single trger lke barrage or blast rain
(tried barrage only on a 4-link and dps was too low, maybe point blank?) if your skin is thick enough to get closer to mobs why not point blank is a huge boost but still very risky to get near if your not well equiped.

- what HP pool to aim for with and without a belly ?
i guess with a good max hp roll + max in passive tree including the constitution cirle roughly 5.2k (w/o belly) 5.5k(with belly)

- is LG+jewel+crit nodes better than Opus ?
wait men at first place opus was never been better than lioneyes on this guide so just max rolled lioneyes is enough to beat opus. not unless if your specifically using opus on barrage setup GMP and with +1 additional arrow in quiver then yes opus has higher dmg but still not far.
@oestergreen
Follow the guide life nodes then get constitution circle and vitaity void should be enough otherwise you wont have enough dmg to kill boss.

@fortran

1)It says "Elementalist/Assasin", but the tree screenshot shows points allocated near the ranger starting node. How is that possible? Or should I actually take a ranger accension?

-Its the same just get the nodes needed to get in line and follow the passive tree guide.

2)The tree includes extra frenzy charges, how should I get frenzy charges in combat?

-blood rage, poachers mark, ice bite

3)Are there any important gear pieces like certain uniques/flasks that everybody except me knows about?)

-lioneyes glare, signal fire, maligaros, rats nest, relic lightning coil, atziris step.

have fun guys
hye guys this league is my 1st time play poe. as i see price kaom heart is very expensive for starter like me so which u guys think is better between queen's forest or perfect form. another one is im having problem with hatred as its mana reserved is too high when use together with herald ice. so is worth to buy essence worm ring to put hatred or should i just avoid using hatred after all as that ring provide no stat at all.

edit : im using ts build 1
Last edited by Ayam1414#3853 on Aug 20, 2017, 6:48:03 PM
^^^ go for perfect form if you can sustain your capped cold resist. free phase acrobatic and arctic armour is nice kit for survivability.

Dont use essence worm. just get used to it having 25% uneserved mana, bring 1 large mana flask and go straight first to spirit void.

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