[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

In case it can help some folks here is my stuff/build.



Just upgraded my gear with a near perfect Lioneye's Glare, still running crappy gem setups, got 4.7k life.

Tree with jewels can be found here.

I'm not a huge fan of Lioneye's Fall but didn't test accurately. I think a jewel slot can be worth more than that but I may be wrong.

Also my rings/amulet haven't been changed yet, you could look for better ones with +x-x to physical damage or more crit. The belt is also crappy but I need to refarm currencies atm.

Maps are easy, you can run almost everything except no leech mods maps. I've kept the unique quest jewel for the pierce on LA but I might just add a pierce support to LA and swap to a pure DPS jewel.
Last edited by ploxirion#7934 on Aug 12, 2017, 1:25:29 PM
From Juerk

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-Bow + Helmet can stay for now, those are looking good

-Quiver is very mediocre, signal fire (for conversion) is the best. Drillneck or even Blackgleam are very cheap upgrades though.

- gloves are ok for capping resists. At some point you want more dmg - you got two cheap options there.
A) thunderfist as another setup (for barrage or blast rain) - no flat life but a 5.5-link.

B) rare gloves with attack speed, preferably gripped gloves (because of the implicit).

belt: I'd replace it with a rare belt (similar res. just extra life roll). You can choose between rustic/leather belt as the more offensive/defensive base.

jewellery: ammu is ok - bless it and craft flat phys on it. You don't need accuracy with lioneye's glare (your otherwise ok-ish breach ring becomes worthless - replace it with something else if you want to stick with LoG for a while).

On a side note: I'd look more into the links - those aren't really optimal as of now. You need much more crit (I hate inc. crit gems, but there's little way around it). If you choose PTL (conversion) in your links, you need to attach WED onto it and convert the other 50% with blackgleam/signal fire (or at least take the cold dmg nodes). I'd replace PPAD, because it tends to underperform in a conversion setup.
Something like TS-GMP-PTL-WED-IncCrit with blackgleam / signal fire should give you a lot of dmg and consistency.



I bought a blackgleam and will buy a signal fire as my next item. i redid the links in my bow and gained like a 10% increase in the dmg tooltip for tornado. Also banked the breach ring for whenever i end up ditching the lioneye and got a ring to cap my resists (my old quiver had resistances).

I dont understand the point about the belt , since mine has like 30str that sort of counts like a life roll doesnt it?

I will tackle a new pair of gloves once i recover some currency since the signal fire will drain me, i cant really even afford it right now but hopefully will in the next few days.


Thanks a lot for your input.
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Zelai wrote:
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From Juerk

Spoiler
-Bow + Helmet can stay for now, those are looking good

-Quiver is very mediocre, signal fire (for conversion) is the best. Drillneck or even Blackgleam are very cheap upgrades though.

- gloves are ok for capping resists. At some point you want more dmg - you got two cheap options there.
A) thunderfist as another setup (for barrage or blast rain) - no flat life but a 5.5-link.

B) rare gloves with attack speed, preferably gripped gloves (because of the implicit).

belt: I'd replace it with a rare belt (similar res. just extra life roll). You can choose between rustic/leather belt as the more offensive/defensive base.

jewellery: ammu is ok - bless it and craft flat phys on it. You don't need accuracy with lioneye's glare (your otherwise ok-ish breach ring becomes worthless - replace it with something else if you want to stick with LoG for a while).

On a side note: I'd look more into the links - those aren't really optimal as of now. You need much more crit (I hate inc. crit gems, but there's little way around it). If you choose PTL (conversion) in your links, you need to attach WED onto it and convert the other 50% with blackgleam/signal fire (or at least take the cold dmg nodes). I'd replace PPAD, because it tends to underperform in a conversion setup.
Something like TS-GMP-PTL-WED-IncCrit with blackgleam / signal fire should give you a lot of dmg and consistency.



I bought a blackgleam and will buy a signal fire as my next item. i redid the links in my bow and gained like a 10% increase in the dmg tooltip for tornado. Also banked the breach ring for whenever i end up ditching the lioneye and got a ring to cap my resists (my old quiver had resistances).


I dont understand the point about the belt , since mine has like 30str that sort of counts like a life roll doesnt it?

I will tackle a new pair of gloves once i recover some currency since the signal fire will drain me, i cant really even afford it right now but hopefully will in the next few days.


Thanks a lot for your input.



No, you're right, 30 Str = + 15 to maximum life - I wasn't clear enough there. I was talking about something like a rustic with 80+ life or a leatherbelt with 110+.
Wanting to get people's opinion on this gem-setup:

TS + GMP + PPAD + Damage on Full Life + PtL + Elemental Damage with attacks

We can now use Damage on Full Life for a nice more multiplier. I do see the disadvantage of losing it when you take damage, but with dodge and Vaal Pact, should be able to stay topped up on life.

Also, with 37.8% crit with an effective crit chance of 71% with lucky, Path of Building is saying that the best gems to fill in from TS + GMP + PPAD + PtL + EDwA is Slower Proj > Crit Dmg > Added Fire > Pierce > Inc Crit Stikes. Am I missing something because inc crit strikes doesn't seem that good.
And when I upgrade the gems in PoB to 20/20, it gets outshone by Added Lightning and Faster Attacks.
SNAKEBITE Gloves are any good for this build-1 raider option?
First time Poe player here. Just hit lvl 66 as a raider going into act 10. Builds been great fun so far! Few questions:

1) So far on the tree I've pushed for a few extra life/defense nodes and avoided any ele pen.
In late game is full conversion the go-to for damage or more of a stylistic/optional choice for a raider?

2) Should I worry about chaos resist at all? If so what should I aim for as I push into mapping.

3) When trying to get red sockets for CWDT would you prioritize an evasion base with 2 reds or an evasion/armour cross with 3 reds to get the increased duration gem in. Obviously 3 reds on evasion is ideal but I'm poor :).
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huenikad wrote:
First time Poe player here. Just hit lvl 66 as a raider going into act 10. Builds been great fun so far! Few questions:

1) So far on the tree I've pushed for a few extra life/defense nodes and avoided any ele pen.
In late game is full conversion the go-to for damage or more of a stylistic/optional choice for a raider?

2) Should I worry about chaos resist at all? If so what should I aim for as I push into mapping.

3) When trying to get red sockets for CWDT would you prioritize an evasion base with 2 reds or an evasion/armour cross with 3 reds to get the increased duration gem in. Obviously 3 reds on evasion is ideal but I'm poor :).


1) It's the best way for us to scale our damage through 100% ele conversion with WED and ele pen.
2) Ignore it
3) Go for Ev/Arm. You always want some armor.
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Sylfuss wrote:
Hi, wasn't sure where to post this but considering it's related to the guide, might aswell.

So, after spending a lot, i managed to get this:



Used a lot of alteration orbs to get it so, obviously didn't try more and now i just don't really know what to do, my RNG has been so bad lately i'm scared of trying to upgrade it, i'm not even sure how i would upgrade it, (locking affix / just using an Aug and then regal etc.) not sure about its current value aswell, maybe i've spent more than i should have i don't know.

I don't really have a goal in the game right now, it's also my first time reaching lv78, maybe i'll reroll, maybe not now.

So what should i do, pray RNG and try to upgrade, maybe wait before upgrading to stack currency and get masters at a higher level to manipulate the RNG, or just try to sell it?


Nobody knows what i should do with that harbinger bow? :s
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/ShfitedAura/characters

I managed to get somewhere pretty decent with my build - I have a ton of evasion and Vaal Grace really helps against bosses, especially with the increased duration. My damage is around 11.4k when fully buffed, siege ballista is kinda weird, I'm not sure I'll be keeping that. Sitting 3.6k health.

Would love some insight on what you think I could improve on, here!


Can you just add you actual stuff ?

You have add SOOO MUCH INFORMATION ... im lost , i dont know what gem use you tell we need to use all herald all gem in the game , im completly lost... im not eng and this bulid semms to be be not bad, i dont know.

Too much information, you just need to be clear with 1 page and link your build/actual stuff on exemple.
i dont know why you wont make that :/


Seems to be good build but i dont know, i'm lost...
Not clear bluid :/

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