I decided to try out puncture-trap, and to my surprise it seems to be a truly pathetic skill. I could attack the boss with regular attack and do much more damage. That is, if the trap even damages the boss at all. I think I'm doing something wrong.
Currently, to evaluate puncture-trap, I have lvl 20, 20% quality puncture linked to trap+trap damage+point blank. The support gems are all around level 11 ish, currently, but that shouldn't make enough of a difference to make this skill not totally suck ass (which it does). I could put it in a 5-link but I don't want to screw up the socket colors for the 5-link Blast Rain I use (which requires three off-color linked sockets) on such a crappy skill.
WTF am I doing wrong?!?! I was fighting Oak (or whatever the guy is that does leap slam) on a lvl 75 Zana daily... very easy for this character, normally. Not with puncture-trap! The traps wouldn't even TRIGGER 90% of the time, even when I threw them in the guy's face. Like for the first two minutes I just ran around in circles trying to make a trap trigger at all. He'd stand right beside them and they would do NOTHING. Finally, when I got one to trigger, it took of a grand total of like 5-10% off of his life. After about 3 or 4 minutes of this crap, I just gave up and tornado-shotted him down in three or four seconds (my unbuffed TS does 32k dps... with buffs it's between 38k and 90k).
I also tried puncture-trap on an armory map, another ridiculously easy map for this character's level and gear, but I wanted to evaluate the puncture trap skill. So, I get the boss, and start trying to use puncture trap on him. He's the blackguard guy with the big energy shield. Well, anyway, again, it made an easy boss look hard. He's sitting there, dropping a fairly weak firestorm down on me, but he's actually out-dpsing my puncture traps. So, again, I just blew him up with my regular skills and moved on.
I am using a legacy Reach of the Council, so my traps shoot more than one arrow. Could the trap damage be bugged and getting divided amongst the arrows or something? Yes, I'm "reaching" for an answer, but I can't understand how traps could be so highly touted yet suck so very badly, so the best conclusion I can come to is that my weapon is somehow bugged or- most likely- that I'm doing something wrong.
Puncture is dead. Was only truly good against Atziri.
Welcome your new Overlord:
Its a new meta for single target dps? Im nearly to swap bows, and dont know about sockets. Also, still dont know what bow shall i pick.
Base poison is: 8% per second, for 2 seconds of combined physical and chaos damage.
So, without anything else its 16% of physical/chaos.
+duration then of course, increases that. every 1 second, is another 8%. Skill effect duration, poison duration, etc.
It double dips. Most elemental, etc do not do this.
But, poison gets projectile damage, chaos damage, attack damage, twice. so, when you as a bow user are running 400% projectile damage..
your 25k/hit physical/chaos Tornado shot hits 4 times. applying 4 stacks of poison. 100k direct hit, and 4 10k/s over 2 second poisons. one hit then did 100k direct, and 80k poison over 2s. Without any specific investment in poison, besides simply applying it.
When it comes to poison, projectile damage increases the base hit, then increases the poison that is scaling off the base hit in the first place. (this also applies to aoe, chaos, and a few others.)
Compared to say, 10% of your physical as added fire. 25k/hit phys TS. 27.5k with fire. 110k. I'll even give you weapon elemental damage. 59% more wed. 28975/hit- 116k.
Reach is the goto, becuase its a high pure physical damage bow. and hte extra arrows lets you remove GMP, which has the less proj damage mod.
Can this stack with the bleed from Rupture ascendancy? Is it worthwhile?
I have ~ 10E worth of currency without liquidating everything.
What should my next upgrade be? How hard should I be pushing leveling versus mapping for drops? I have cleared all T12s, some T13s, no T14s. I mainly just play solo, and sometimes group for daily rotations.
Thanks!
itt, quiver is bad, particulary that 8% which block bench made mod (up to 27%)
ott, out of curiosity, did you divine your uniques or bought like that?
edit: ofc I don't say you should buy 10ex worth quiver
I bought every item like this, or with 5 mods and then used the bench to get a 6th (like my ring)
Currently my total resistances, before applying the Merc reduction, are 144 / 149 / 173 Fire / Ice / Lightning, and I have 4,530 life
I'm trying out the pierce variant with Drillneck and full quality pierce gem. If I'm grabbing Powerful Precision out of the Deadeye ascendancy, is it still worth it to pick up the Piercing Shots cluster?
With Drillneck + Pierce gem, I get 60% base pierce. Powerful Precision then dynamically increases based on projectile distance, although I'm not too sure of the exact mechanics. I'm wondering if the 4 points I spent to increase my base pierce to 100% should be spent somewhere else, since it kind of overlaps with what Powerful Precision offers. I suspect the answer is yes, but just want to double-check.
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Doing a blast rain only pathfinder atm. So far it's working out pretty well actualy. Especially wiht the incraesed aoe gem the clearing area is insane. I got a 390pdps bow so that helps killing. I use a kaom's heart as chest piece. At 5.7k life atm and after a few more levels i'll probably reach around 6k life.
My setup is
AOE
BR > FA > WED > PTL > Inc Crit Strikes > Inc AOE
For Single target I switch the aoe gem for conc effect.
Got the 75% blast rain enchant on hat so really good dps both aoe and single target. It might not be as fast at clearing as lightning arrow + chain but with the huge aoe i'm clearing really fast.
Doing a blast rain only pathfinder atm. So far it's working out pretty well actualy. Especially wiht the incraesed aoe gem the clearing area is insane. I got a 390pdps bow so that helps killing. I use a kaom's heart as chest piece. At 5.7k life atm and after a few more levels i'll probably reach around 6k life.
My setup is
AOE
BR > FA > WED > PTL > Inc Crit Strikes > Inc AOE
For Single target I switch the aoe gem for conc effect.
Got the 75% blast rain enchant on hat so really good dps both aoe and single target. It might not be as fast at clearing as lightning arrow + chain but with the huge aoe i'm clearing really fast.
Man, did u try using Dying Sun?
I bet u would be surprised)) It's realy insane flask.
What do you expect from Raider, that Pathfinder fails to do? Pathfinder seems to be the power house at the moment. If you have a certain goal in your mind, maybe I can provide some feedback.
Constant uptime of buffs, not getting screwed if you run out of flasks on bosses, more defensive options and still use defensive flasks (just wihout the big buff from Pathfinder). Would go Phasing + Onslaught.
Phasing is a very nice thing to have - if you are a melee character. Although still useful, it will offer limited value for a bow user.
My personal experience with a bow-Raider is Slaughter + Chase provides most benefit. Chase is actually the obvious choice. Slaughter makes your life a lot easier - especially on the frenzy charge generation front. I typically enter the map, shoot 4-5 Frenzy arrows and forget about charges till the map boss. I feel like Slaughter provides much more clear speed compared to Veil.
On the defensive front, do not expect much from Raider compared to Pathfinder. Hard hitting single targets will always be problematic.
Ok thanks man! Would you still suggest me to stay Pathfinder instead of Raider with magic flasks?
I'm playing a tornadoshot deadeye ranger as my first char in poe and this guide helped me a lot.
I saved some currency to buy a harbinger (350 pdps is what I think I can afford). Today I read something about reach of the council. Would it be better to save some more and get this bow instead of a harbinger?
Pro harbinger: Some more pdps and crit.
Pro council: Swap GMP for something nice and get the additional arrows for free without damage penalty.
I'm really confused what's best and worried about spending all my currency based on a wrong decision because I'm a noob. :D
I have played after this guide for a few leagues now and it's really nice, thank you!
I want to try your windripper guide but passive tree is out of date. Anyone using windripper in 2.4 and have a fresh passive tree?
*bump*
I got the same problem, played the basic version a long time ago and changed to a windripper. I gladly got a legacy one. There is one ranger version windripper build but it doesn't uses tornado shot and i really like the skill. I also got the Drillneck and love the pierce damage but maybe another quiver would be better for ele dmg. Atm i got a mix of the original version here and the other (i think amigo shotz windripper) build but it doesn't work the way it should.
Do you plan to update the Windripper section of your build?
Greetings!
I opened the old windripper builds and copied the url into poeplanner.com, give it a try. But would be really nice with an updated windripper section!
I'm level 82 pathfinder and using LA and blast rain. Clearing t10 maps really quick except the bosses, don't know if their resistances is a problem but it takes some time to kill them even with a 6L blast rain.
Spent all my exalts today to go from a 5L blast rain to a 6L, but still not so fast kills as i thought it should be.
Got one more nice diamond ring in stash but need to solve resistances in other slots before i can use it. Struggle alot with intelligence and need to spend som talent points into it.
Next upgrade will be a rats's nest with 40% blast rain enchant, and next 10 levels will be more elemental damage talents.
