[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

Gloves might be an option, tbh. I did Vaal the Amu I got earlier so I can get a tiny amount of Multi back, even if it probably doesn't matter a whole lot:



I did try shopping for INT jewelry (and 2 suffix Boots) but both of the ones I was looking at got sniped earlier, or they haven't been on. Would love to trim those nodes if I could. The ring I missed out on was sad, Diamond with t1 Phys, 68 life, and 40 INT, kind of a heartbreaker. Will take a look at gloves, actually a 2-suffix glove with crafted INT could probably do the job now that I have Crit Multi gem to compensate a little for loss of Facebreakers.

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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

Short two-week race update. Starting to think more and more that Lioneye is going to carry me to the promised land. 93 and 33% now, #13 Slayer at the moment. Made some final tweaks.

Cool build, are you doing it for the sake of the race or do you think Duelist/Slayer is actually better for Tornado shot than Ranger? Also do you have another source of AOE pack clear without Herald of Ice, pierce, or chain?

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FourForces wrote:

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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

Short two-week race update. Starting to think more and more that Lioneye is going to carry me to the promised land. 93 and 33% now, #13 Slayer at the moment. Made some final tweaks.

Cool build, are you doing it for the sake of the race or do you think Duelist/Slayer is actually better for Tornado shot than Ranger? Also do you have another source of AOE pack clear without Herald of Ice, pierce, or chain?

Sake of the race. The Duelist I'm playing will eventually go towards another project I'm working on, 7 (or 8) Endurance Charge + Lioneye Fall Champion TS build. So I needed the body anyways.

I couldn't go Ranger with how much I don't get a chance to play since I also work/try to be social, especially with the LA/BR and BV hype. I wouldn't even be on the Deadeye or Pathfinder ladder, and I would be -5 or -6 spots (too close for comfort) on Raider.

I think TS is pretty good for AOE clear tbh, so no need for any of the other support gems or skills. It's basically the reason I didn't go for LA or Ice Shot or something similar. The tree I have needs extra help with low funds as Frankenberry pointed out, extra INT nodes and I had to take both Cloth and Chain + Survivalist clusters.

I aimed at the beginning of the league to get Kaom's as quickly as I could to offset the problem of having too low of life, since you don't have awesome gear for sale early nor high level masters to craft with. This includes biting the bullet early for a Belly of the Beast Day 1. Also to try and take advantage of the fact that I had to take Survivalist node, I had points in that area anyways and I bought an Inspired Learning since it can activate in that area (with Survivalist + Heartseeker + Frenzy Charge + Herbalism). With how fast the mapping is now, solo or group, along with the crazy league mods it's not uncommon to have 4-5 active stolen Rare monster mods, even if it's just a very small buff compared to actual Headhunter.


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Picked up a couple of (contextual) upgrades. Not awesome but I can at least drop the INT nodes. Master benches were kind to me.

Thanks, makes sense.

Cadiro gave this to me for like 5k coins, could it fit in this build? How would it change?

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Lambo94 wrote:

Cadiro gave this to me for like 5k coins, could it fit in this build? How would it change?

No not really.

Opportunity cost is way to great. A decent rare > Victario's Acuity.

Hi guys,

A few questions on pierce numbers.

I have a drillneck:



And my Pierce Chance is 60% with TS, GMP, PPAD, PTL, WED, FA
Passive tree: http://tinyurl.com/h9pzavl



The guide mentions 80-85% pierce chance:

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Q: Why not the whole the pierce cluster?
A: With a quality pierce chance (15/20 or more) and a drillneck, you reach 80-85% pierce chance. You would invest 5 points to get around 30% more projectile damage and 15% pierce chance, which is not efficient by any means. Also 85% pierce chance is pretty reliable, without the need for further increase

So would I be better off going with Pierce instead of Faster Attacks? That would give 110% pierce chance (which seems like a waste)? And how come I am at 60% or 110%, does not match with the 80-85% in the guide! Should I skip the pierce nodes in the tree and use the pierce gem?

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DaneOfTheHill wrote:

Hi guys,

A few questions on pierce numbers.

I have a drillneck:

And my Pierce Chance is 60% with TS, GMP, PPAD, PTL, WED, FA
Passive tree: http://tinyurl.com/h9pzavl

The guide mentions 80-85% pierce chance:

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Q: Why not the whole the pierce cluster?
A: With a quality pierce chance (15/20 or more) and a drillneck, you reach 80-85% pierce chance. You would invest 5 points to get around 30% more projectile damage and 15% pierce chance, which is not efficient by any means. Also 85% pierce chance is pretty reliable, without the need for further increase

So would I be better off going with Pierce instead of Faster Attacks? That would give 110% pierce chance (which seems like a waste)? And how come I am at 60% or 110%, does not match with the 80-85% in the guide! Should I skip the pierce nodes in the tree and use the pierce gem?

If you corrupt your drillneck for +1 arrow put 4 points into the pierce cluster + pierce gem = 100% pierce chance
If you have 10% pierce chance from drillneck just put 3 points in the pierce cluster + pierce gem = 100% pierce chance.

So to be clear: As a Ranger you should always use the pierce gem with your Tornado Shot if you are using Drillneck (As Scion Deadeye you can avoid it if you really want to).

The math in the guide is old and outdated. Pierce gem gives a flat 50% pierce chance now and a more multiplier :D Neversink just doesn't update all his guides constantly. Would take to much time I guess.

Thanks for the quick reply.

3 points in the Pierce cluster only gives 20% actually. So I guess I still need all four + Pierce gem, then I am at 110%.

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BTW: Nullification seems a great option for extra life, I don't see it mentioned anywhere.

Pretty sure it changed with recent tree updates. I have it now so it's not unknown or anything. Guides are guides and just that.