[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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dcbeme wrote:

anybody able to link me the 2.1 skill tree?

Here it is

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BzyxXx wrote:

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beautifulbutt wrote:

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Asag wrote:

To the previous question I wanna also ask why theres no trap puncture version in first post? Its pretty popular and Im not sure what gems link to trap puncture.

The guide does mention it briefly, but that's all really. Don't know why it doesn't go more in debth.

As of the puncture trap, as a 4L: Trap-Puncture-PPAD-Point Blank. As a 5th add Trap and Mine Damage. Haven't checked on the 6th yet.

I don't hear abou puncture trap. I use Vaal Burning Arrow + trap+ point blank + gmp.

You think puncture trap will be better?

I use puncture map mainly because of Atziri. Haven't used other traps so I can't really compare. The damage is insane once you get the gems leveled up, especially if the mob starts running. I recommend at least trying it out.

Hey Neversink, loving the build but I had a question.

After trying out all 4 primary attacks I am in love with Ice Shot, it is amazing to me.
Do you have any advice for specific tree changes for Ice Shot over Tornado, Split, or LA?
This is my first bow character, and my first elemental conversion skill use, so I'm kinda out of my depth!

Thanks for the help!

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beautifulbutt wrote:

Physical Reflection maps are pretty damn easy if you have a leveled Lightning Arrrow around. Using the 5-Link Tornado Shot setup TS-GMP-PPAD-PTL-WED you can swap TS with LA and PPAD with Chain. With HoA+Hatred this should give you a 0 phys Lightning Arrow with not that much gimped clear speed. You probably want to have a good single target, but I use puncture trap for that anyways so it combos really well.

I would take tips for Lioneye's Glare Elemental Reflect maps though.

I use Lioneye's Glare w/ Tornado shot, and have no issue on Ele Reflect.. Is that what you meant? Ofc I remove the WED + PTL Gems.

I am going to try what you said on Physical reflect maps though, so I dont need to reroll as often.

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BzyxXx wrote:

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beautifulbutt wrote:

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Asag wrote:

To the previous question I wanna also ask why theres no trap puncture version in first post? Its pretty popular and Im not sure what gems link to trap puncture.

The guide does mention it briefly, but that's all really. Don't know why it doesn't go more in debth.

As of the puncture trap, as a 4L: Trap-Puncture-PPAD-Point Blank. As a 5th add Trap and Mine Damage. Haven't checked on the 6th yet.

I don't hear abou puncture trap. I use Vaal Burning Arrow + trap+ point blank + gmp.

You think puncture trap will be better?

I also use puncture trap and have used traps for a long time. Burning arrow traps used to crush atziri, etc. yet it was nerfed a patch or two ago and puncture was made stronger again. I have done a lot of testing and back and forth on using entropy keystone or removing the point blank gem in puncture trap and taking the keystone which is only 2 points to get to and after a lot of testing my TS seems to be hardly affected by the now buffed point blank gem and or keystone. Instead of being 0 damage at outer edge of screen its now 50% damage on TS or SA, etc. and is not a factor. I am now, after a lot of testing, running the point blank keystone with Trap setup as follows: Puncture>PPAD>trap>Trap and Mine Damage>Slower projectiles & 6th link I use ICS for 94.5% Crit chance and not having to rely on power up charges for either my TS or Trap setup damage making virtually every trap, etc. do my crit % damage and if you place the traps correctly it takes down everything and is one of the fun skills to use in the game. If you have not tried it and are bored of frenzy, etc. give it a try. Some people do not like the challenge of getting good at placing traps yet once you get the hang of it you will see why some of us love traps and now puncture trap over the older burning arrow trap setup. On a side note: I really can not see the difference of using entropy yet maybe its just because I only grab the 37% or 47% bonus but someone else may have a different finding. I do love now how point blank is only 2 clicks away with the buff they gave it TS is not nerfed to bad at all and hey, reflect is less of a problem at the outer edges yet hurts more up close xD.

The normal progression skill trees by level progress are broken, or is it just me?
I'm seeing large sections of skills unconnected by nodes. Are we supposed to "regret" those? It isnt really clear. The whole 2.1 tree works, but the progress skilltree links seem off... for sure.

Can someone verify? guide needs updating.

This is what I did based from the first page. You can follow something similar, but I have taken the +30 INT Node, because I didn't have enough INT for Blue Gems.

Point 55



Point 80



Point 90 - I have taken the +30 STR node for Red gems.



Point 109



Point 118 - Respect the +30 INT out if you have enough.

I have question about Body Armor.

I think about 3 versions:

1. Daresso's Defiance 5L - but its kinda impossible to do it 5 green... - with this I can use cwdt+immortal call. And if I get this armor I need belt with resses.
2. Queen of the Forest - 3 res, hp and I dont lost any movement speed (with this I will have 12k evasion) - 5L - easy to get 5 green slots.
3. Rare chest with 2K+ evasion + ~50hp + 2 res 5L - and with this I can use dmg belt.

I think only about this for now because I dont have any much currency.

What You think guys?

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DuFFzbar wrote:

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beautifulbutt wrote:

Physical Reflection maps are pretty damn easy if you have a leveled Lightning Arrrow around. Using the 5-Link Tornado Shot setup TS-GMP-PPAD-PTL-WED you can swap TS with LA and PPAD with Chain. With HoA+Hatred this should give you a 0 phys Lightning Arrow with not that much gimped clear speed. You probably want to have a good single target, but I use puncture trap for that anyways so it combos really well.

I would take tips for Lioneye's Glare Elemental Reflect maps though.

I use Lioneye's Glare w/ Tornado shot, and have no issue on Ele Reflect.. Is that what you meant? Ofc I remove the WED + PTL Gems.

I am going to try what you said on Physical reflect maps though, so I dont need to reroll as often.

Well that was a fairly obvious solution I hadn't actually tried. Thanks for that :D

Is this bow worth 5l with vorici ? ?