[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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mirko92 wrote:

70 exa add me VinSpo

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Fist of all: AMAZING GUIDE! :)

I have now traded/reused my equip, but I have some questions.
I am using the taming ring, which is not mentioned in your guide. Why? I think this is an amazing ring, which gives good res, chance for status effect and +20% damage (ignited+frozen status).
What should item should I change next? I have 4,3k life, max res, 12k tornado dps running Hatred, HoA and HoI



Thanks in advance.

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3nz0 wrote:

hi,

first of all congratulate you on this build, it's really amazing and easy to level up.

I just hit level 89 and finish the Scion wheel life, what would be the next step? Depth Perception or Piercing Shots?

*Actually my chance to hit is about 87%



Regards and thanks in advance

I'd say piercing shots

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mirko92 wrote:

70 exa add me VinSpo

Get out of here.

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Vorteck wrote:

IS this quiver decent for this build ?

Yes it is, I'd recommend swapping to a drillneck once you have the piercing cluster + 6 Link for your tornado shot, but otherwise it's a very nice equip piece.

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Would there be any pros for replacing hatred with haste? if not, what are the cons?

I did some calculations on that topic. There are some pros.

Pros:

1) Haste adds movementspeed - movementspeed is awesome
2) If you are running low maps only (depending on equip, it can be between 66 and 74) where you clear things with one single crit, haste is indeed a good option, since more damage doesn't boost your clear speed.

Cons:

1) You can try calculating it with the calculator, with my equip Hatred boosts my DPS from 14000 to 18980, haste from 14000 to 15600...
2) Harder time sustaining mana leech
3) You lose a LOT of survival. HoI+Hatred is a great way to keep the enemies frozen.

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I have now traded/reused my equip, but I have some questions.
I am using the taming ring, which is not mentioned in your guide. Why? I think this is an amazing ring, which gives good res, chance for status effect and +20% damage (ignited+frozen status).
What should item should I change next? I have 4,3k life, max res, 12k tornado dps running Hatred, HoA and HoI

The taming is a nice trinket and there is not much wrong with it. I didn't include it, because I don't play on standard and the taming is not a very efficient investment on high leagues. I might add it up however, since I'm considering expanding this guide with a windripper section (this will probably happen towards the end of this league).

Thanks.

EDIT: added it already.

Also I'd recommend swapping your armor or your amulet. Also you can work towards drillneck, since you got a 6link. On paper the DPS with drillneck might be a little lower, but the actual piercing increases clearspeed dramatically

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Just did a minor guide update, added some information in the equipment section, leveling and bow crafting sections, also fixed a minor bug in the calculator.

As some of you guys probably noticed, I'm not streaming or playing actively right now. That's because after beating Uber Atziri a few times (normal Atziri a hundred times) and clearing every map, I simply got bored.

I will be updating this guide and answering questions a few times a week, but I will probably resume active streaming activity towards the beginning of the next league, since there is not much to do right now.

(Also I'm hyped about binding of isaac rebirth... might stream that though :D)

Thanks for the kind comments

Plans for the recent future:
-Add a windripper section
-Update calculator to work with Herald of Thunder
-Add Split arrow, puncture, frenzy and some other stuff into the calculator
-Video guide!

Hi all,

I've been playing X/puncture builds for a long time -- split arrow before 1.2 and TS since 1.2.

I'm wondering what you guys think about the usefulness of the pierce nodes if not using drillneck. I might switch to drillneck at some point, but right now I'm using:

which is a pretty awesome dps quiver with a lot of life.

Once I get a 6L I might consider switching to drillneck, but until then it's probably not worth it.

I've been using the pierce cluster mainly because I initially planned to get a drillneck and pretty much just forgot to unspec it. At level 90 though I'm considering respeccing a few areas, so now I am thinking about making this change.

What do you all think?

Hello, Ive been playing P.O.E for almost a year now, and this is the first build Ive done where Ive soloed the Vaal Oversoul. Granted it was on normal, BUT! Im really liking this! Feels like for the first time Ill have a toon that can FINALLY run some maps and survive! And NOT suck too! LOL Thanks!

Lizz

P.S. Yea the mana regen thing is annoying at low lvl but gets managable I found after 28.

Update on my windripper version of this. level 92 shadow with 3.8+k HP, changed one of rings so I now lack 9% cold res to be res capped (capped with endurance charges which I get through warlord's mark curse),47% chance to evade, dodge chance 40% for attacks and 46% for spells, 92.1% Crit chance with charges up, TS tooltip is 31k with frenzy and power charges (no promise flask, vaal haste, rampage bonus or any other buff). Frenzy takes .28secs to fire so it actually applies curses faster than manually casting it. Reflect is handled by applying curse first though frenzy, using vaal grace, using topaz and promise flasks before firing into the pack. If the pack is too big, I usually kill the whites with frenzy before killing the rare/unique with TS. Clear speed is definitely faster than my lvl91 ranger phys version. Most of my gems are still 18/20q so there's still a bit of DPS to gained. I'm estimating it to reach 33-34k by level 20. for reference I will post the gear and trees used for both characters.

Shadow tree and gear:


Ranger tree and gear:

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nexxx85 wrote:

Fist of all: AMAZING GUIDE! :)

I have now traded/reused my equip, but I have some questions.
I am using the taming ring, which is not mentioned in your guide. Why? I think this is an amazing ring, which gives good res, chance for status effect and +20% damage (ignited+frozen status).
What should item should I change next? I have 4,3k life, max res, 12k tornado dps running Hatred, HoA and HoI

Spoiler

Thanks in advance.

The taming would work better with the ele version of this build. I've been running zana Domination maps for about a week now hoping to drop a berek's grip and respite. No luck yet

Since we're talking about rings for a few posts, I just had a Romira's drop recently and because of the mana leech it has, I can swap it out for my current ring.



I was a bit surprised at how much DPS it added given my swapped out ring had +7-11 phys and 34+ str. Awesome if you need accuracy too. TS went from 12.9k to 13.3k and puncture went to 30.3k from 29.4k. But no life. Thing is, I really hate casting curses, and usually forget. The 'power charge' on non-crit kind of makes up a bit for forgetting to use assassin's mark.

Having said that I use the other ring still due to the IIQ.

However might be worth adding the RB to guide as well if not already included.

Hey mate,

Thank you for a very good guide! I respecced my melee ranger when all of the passive points were refunded.

I just crafted this bow. As I have never crafted before I would like to know if you have any suggestions as what to add?



My current bow:


I'm thinking about adding the same. But maybe change the IAS with crit chance.

What do you think?

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nexxx85 wrote:

Fist of all: AMAZING GUIDE! :)

I have now traded/reused my equip, but I have some questions.
I am using the taming ring, which is not mentioned in your guide. Why? I think this is an amazing ring, which gives good res, chance for status effect and +20% damage (ignited+frozen status).
What should item should I change next? I have 4,3k life, max res, 12k tornado dps running Hatred, HoA and HoI

Spoiler

Thanks in advance.

Id swap your Life gain on your bow for an Added Fire gem, else swap it for a blue socket and use PCoC.

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cdchi1 wrote:

Since we're talking about rings for a few posts, I just had a Romira's drop recently and because of the mana leech it has, I can swap it out for my current ring.

Spoiler

I was a bit surprised at how much DPS it added given my swapped out ring had +7-11 phys and 34+ str. Awesome if you need accuracy too. TS went from 12.9k to 13.3k and puncture went to 30.3k from 29.4k. But no life. Thing is, I really hate casting curses, and usually forget. The 'power charge' on non-crit kind of makes up a bit for forgetting to use assassin's mark.

Having said that I use the other ring still due to the IIQ.

However might be worth adding the RB to guide as well if not already included.

The build has a 4L empty (unless you're using 2x CWDT). I tested Curse on Hit + Split Arrows + Assassin's Mark + Pierce. Worked if you have decent accu and IAS. It gets better if you use Drillneck + Pierce passives. It´s the laziest way of applying curses. I just dropped it for a Culling+IIR combo, just because it never hurts to have some extra and I don´t mind dropping the curse myself.

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Rullmihr wrote:

Hey mate,

Thank you for a very good guide! I respecced my melee ranger when all of the passive points were refunded.

I just crafted this bow. As I have never crafted before I would like to know if you have any suggestions as what to add?

My current bow:

I'm thinking about adding the same. But maybe change the IAS with crit chance.

What do you think?

def change IAS with crit, at least on my current gear a 0.25% base chance difference on the bow means around 2% crit chance.

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I didn´t make the guide, I just leveled and played a lot with this build and loved it so I tested around a few things. Sorry if I'm being too nosey on your thread Neversink.