Ranger - [3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses - Forum

@Panini: Gratz getting V.P. rank, that was well earned. Burn all the orbs!	Posted by skuadak#1891 on Dec 2, 2015, 2:02:32 PM Quote this Post
thank you :) Ranger builds list: /917964 When two witches watch two watches, which witch watches which watch? If the witches watching watches watch the same watch while you watch which witch watches which watch, they switch watches; then, the watch switching witches watch which watch you watch. Watching witches watch watches is not for the faint of heart...	Posted by Panini_aux_olives#1967 on Dec 2, 2015, 3:40:03 PM Valued Poster Quote this Post
" Panini_aux_olives wrote: On puncture, use both ppad and slower proj as they both massively increase base hit damage, which is what we want to increase the bleed damage (which is also increased by slower proj btw). The other good supports are increased critical strike in and critical damage. So best 5L is Puncture, PPAD, Slower Proj, ICS or PCoC, ICD. It is the setup that will give the highest physical damage, and thus the highest bleed. phys to lightning: very very bad idea as it halves the physical damage (and thus bleed damage) pcoc : why not. wed: added fire will do better. WED is a better choice than added fire only for skill that convert 50% or more physical damage to elemental (lightning arrow, ice shot, burning arrow, use of P2L support on other skills). @flyaway_kong: q20 pierce now gives 10% increase projectile damage instead of additional pierce chance as before 2.0. So it's always a welcomed bonus. It's equivalent to a minor damage node. u said add fire damage is better than wed right? so what about faster attack? does attack speed matter? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i was wondering where is my tornado shot answer then i just realise that i forgot to ask yesterday LOL as i said earlier im runing pierce lioneye, my tornado shotup setup is TS>PPAD>GMP>FA>PIERCE>PTL(or crit damage,or maybe even remove faster attack to put crit damage and ptl), is this setup good? what is the best setup in your opinion? (there are like ptl,add fire dmg,crit dmg,wed,faster attack to choose from) p/s i just maade my mind, i think my setup will be ts>gmp>pierce>ppad>crit dmg> ptl,your thoughts? I will appreciate your help with this situation :) I speak english mandarin japanese malay hokkien and cantonese :D My ign : MasshiroYuki / IHeartsBora Ma time zone : GMT+8 I afk alot when i have alot of items to sell // if not mostly ill be offline (IF I HAVE NO ITEM FOR SELL sobs* :'< ) Last edited by Incessant#0517 on Dec 2, 2015, 6:24:57 PM	Posted by Incessant#0517 on Dec 2, 2015, 6:21:41 PM Quote this Post
i think best combination for Tornado Shot is GMP>PPAD>FA>Pierce>Crit Dmg, if you have Drillneck	Posted by vici12#0844 on Dec 2, 2015, 6:44:01 PM Quote this Post
" vici12 wrote: i think best combination for Tornado Shot is GMP>PPAD>FA>Pierce>Crit Dmg, if you have Drillneck If i skip faster attack for ptl? Ur thoughts? Same with puncture, if i change faster attack to add fire damage will it be better? I speak english mandarin japanese malay hokkien and cantonese :D My ign : MasshiroYuki / IHeartsBora Ma time zone : GMT+8 I afk alot when i have alot of items to sell // if not mostly ill be offline (IF I HAVE NO ITEM FOR SELL sobs* :'< )	Posted by Incessant#0517 on Dec 3, 2015, 5:17:26 AM Quote this Post
AFD not good for Puncture, it needs physical damage. And i think faster attacks is better than PTL on Tornado Shot, but you can check DPS in-game to see which adds more. Last edited by vici12#0844 on Dec 3, 2015, 9:07:18 AM	Posted by vici12#0844 on Dec 3, 2015, 9:07:04 AM Quote this Post
I switch up between these two depending on monster resistances based on map: TS-PPAD-GMP-PTL-WED for maps with fire resist SA-PPAD-ICS-AFD-Chain for all other maps. Works fine for me. As for puncture, contrary to what panini said, I think this would be a better setup: Puncture-SP-FP-PPAD-ICD, basically replacing ICS with FP for more projectile damage. I may be wrong though. IGN: Evyx / Archnemesis SC	Posted by Evyx#3874 on Dec 3, 2015, 9:47:29 AM Quote this Post
thankyou ! I speak english mandarin japanese malay hokkien and cantonese :D My ign : MasshiroYuki / IHeartsBora Ma time zone : GMT+8 I afk alot when i have alot of items to sell // if not mostly ill be offline (IF I HAVE NO ITEM FOR SELL sobs* :'< )	Posted by Incessant#0517 on Dec 3, 2015, 10:25:42 AM Quote this Post
Faster proj provides only little increased damage. ICS is much more important, giving you more reliable crits. As for faster attack, my feeling is I don't need much on a bow build, I prefer to hit hard and run. Also it increases mana cost quite sensibly if you want to sustain your shots. I use FA as my 6th link with SA/TS on my archer, and don't even use it with lightning arrow. On the other hand I value FA highly on my non crit builds ; it's on my 4L heavy strike and 5L sweep on my Darksrhine marauder. Ranger builds list: /917964 When two witches watch two watches, which witch watches which watch? If the witches watching watches watch the same watch while you watch which witch watches which watch, they switch watches; then, the watch switching witches watch which watch you watch. Watching witches watch watches is not for the faint of heart...	Posted by Panini_aux_olives#1967 on Dec 3, 2015, 1:09:01 PM Valued Poster Quote this Post
I'm not so FasterAttacks4Life!!1! anymore but it's handy sometimes, I can't realy explain it, but it has something to do with CC, particulary with how long mobs stay stunned. At some point I wanted FA in my SA setup, then I took it away when I've got enough attack speed elsewhere. Spoiler I haven't put my setup out in a while, nice one, no? ;p I spot that it says more by how high is single hit's damage than toolpit in general. Toolpit is a liar basicaly Burn all the orbs! Last edited by skuadak#1891 on Dec 3, 2015, 2:43:48 PM	Posted by skuadak#1891 on Dec 3, 2015, 2:42:34 PM Quote this Post